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Edelweiss Flashlight II 10mm Rope...Any issues with yours???

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dave wave · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 25

Bought this rope about a few mnths ago...has been great for everything so far....until the other day.

Took a fall on the direct finish of Pope's Crack in JT...my rope rode across the edge of the roof and tore the sheath completely open around that whole 2in section of the rope.

Anyone ever have any issues like this??

ChefMattThaner · · Lakewood, co · Joined May 2013 · Points: 246

I would seriously doubt the rope was at fault here. Those are perfectly good ropes made by a perfectly good manufacturer. Without seeing the incident its hard to say but the expression " the rope rode across the edge of the roof" sounds like a pretty good reason for some serious sheath damage.

dave wave · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 25

Yea, i know...i've just never seen damage like that first hand...it was suprising to say the least.

Tyrel Fuller · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2010 · Points: 130

Do you have any pictures of the damage. I know of someone recently who also had a flashlight II coreshot on him during a fall.

dave wave · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 25
Tyrel Fuller wrote:Do you have any pictures of the damage. I know of someone recently who also had a flashlight II coreshot on him during a fall.
I'll post some tonight.
Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,239

Very interesting...I bought a Flashlight II a couple of months ago. Took it out to a local sport crag for the rope's first use and led two routes. My one partner TR'ed the second route and after cleaning and rapping down, we noticed the sheath was completely cut through in 2 places, about 20 feet apart. The core strands were all still intact but the entire 20 foot section of sheath looked like a fuzzy caterpillar. We had another rope with us and ran back up to the anchors and could find no burrs and no edges on the route that could have caused the damage we saw. With close to 80 years of climbing experience between the 3 people in the group, we were dumbfounded and had never seen anything like it. The local gear shop we had bought it at sent it back to Edelweiss, who quickly dismissed it as user error. The local gear shop was cool about giving me a discount for another rope to try and make up for the Edelweiss rope. Suffice to say, I will never buy a Flashlight, or probably an Edelweiss altogether, ever again.

Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,239

Pics of the rope in question:





Also wanted to point out that we checked all of our biners (draws and belay) to make sure none of them were excessively grooved. None were.

Tyrel Fuller · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2010 · Points: 130

Dan, I believe you were a customer at my store. Your rope was fucked!! I have personally owned many edelweiss ropes and to quite honest, they have been the most durable ropes I have climbing on (I have owned countless sterlings, a few beal, and climb on mammuts quite often too). However, I am not super psyched on the flashlight or rocklight from edelweiss. They have the 2x2 weave pattern in the sheath similar to other companies, and the rest of their line has the 1x1 weave, which lends itself to be more durable. Don't write off Edelweiss off entirely man, every rope company has a cheap option that sucks. Granted, this whole Flashlight is bullshit.

Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,239

Yeah, I've owned 3 or 4 Edelweiss's in the past, and they were workhorses. I thought they picked up dirt faster than some other brands but they lasted a long time. Unfortunately, in this sport where one failure can have serious repercussions, I just don't have confidence in them anymore. The Sterling I picked up from you guys is doing a fine job (and very patriotically :)

cactusrat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2013 · Points: 10

i have rocked edelweiss for a minute and it sounds like you took a good winger over some sharp rock. buy a new rope and be happy your last one did it's job

Nick Sullens · · Yosemite · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 1,005

I have an Edelweiss Energy and it is by far the worst quality rope durability wise I've owned. Within a few days of sport climbing the rope was pretty fuzzy. It will basically coreshot every 2nd or 3rd time out climbing on it. The sheath is basically super weak and abrades very easily

dave wave · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 25

Looks a lot like your pic DAN....





PortlandRob · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 363

I guess I'm late to the party, but for what it's worth, this rope still sucks in 2017. I bought this as a gym rope (40m). After the first use in the gym and taking several lead falls on it, the sheath was showing significant wear - scaley, hard, like a rope that has seen many months or years of use. After the second gym session with more lead falls, the core was shot on both ends. I could fully fold a bight in half with no space between the two pieces of rope. It felt spongey in those spots as well. I also can't believe this is a 10mm rope. I wondered if mine was mislabeled on the packaging and on the sticker at the rope ends, but this felt much more like a 9.5mm rope - definitely not 10mm.

Canyonman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 0

Fast wear and sheath damaged easily.  I too am late to the party but am finding mine wearing rather rapidly and I'm only top roping with it and mostly with my kids who don't weigh much.  I needed to cut 8 meters off it after only 3-4 partial days of use due to a 3 cm hole in the sheath.  

Katja Sibitz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0

I too bought this rope, before reading any reviews, what a mistake! After only a couple of months use it already is a mess and half the outer layer sheaths off whenever I let someone down! 

Katja Sibitz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2019 · Points: 0

another picture

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Katja Sibitz wrote: I too bought this rope, before reading any reviews, what a mistake! After only a couple of months use it already is a mess and half the outer layer sheaths off whenever I let someone down! 

I don''t see anything wrong with that rope, based on the photo.

Buck Rio · · MN · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 16
FrankPS wrote:

I don''t see anything wrong with that rope, based on the photo.

A rope shouldn't be that fuzzy after a couple of times to the gym, should it?  None of my Mammut, Beal, Roca or Sterling ropes do that. But I don't buy the cheapest rope any given manufacturer makes either, which it sounds like the Flashlight is for Edelweiss. 

My first Petzl rope looked like that after a few dozen climbs....at JTree!
Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 804

Yeah...I owned one of these ropes.  Same wear issues.  I'll never buy another Edelweiss.  It may just be this particular model but if they put out something so inferior then I'll always be wary of the manufacturer.  

Bill B · · WNC · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 0

Also bought an entry level Edelweiss rope (thankfully for use as a gym rope). It has terrible handling and has started fraying super easily. Like other's have said not sure if it's a brandwide issue or just their cheap models, but to be safe I will never invest any further money into Edelweiss ropes.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

I bought a super cheap 9.8 edelweiss, managed to core shot it sport climbing on ungrooved petzl spirits. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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