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Dream of Poudre 

YDS: 5.12d French: 7c Ewbanks: 28 UIAA: IX ZA: 28 British: E6 6b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 90'
Original:  YDS: 5.12d French: 7c Ewbanks: 28 UIAA: IX ZA: 28 British: E6 6b [details]
FA: Peavy and Peters
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Submitted By: Jesse Ryan on Apr 19, 2010

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Kep onpoint.


Keeping with the wall's theme, this line starts with a boulder problem, leading into more pumpy fun climbing. The boulder problem is over at the third bolt (a 13b variation heads right here). The climbing eases into the 11 range until another sting before the slab. Doesn't completely ease off through the long slab. The initial crux is harder for those less than about 6'.


Climb near the center of the wall, three bolted lines right of Moose Knuckles, climbing on and left of a black water streak.


10 bolts to anchors. 60m rope and watch your ends.

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By Ol Toby
From: CA
Feb 17, 2011
rating: 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b

Perhaps the best route on a stacked wall. One of the best in the canyon!
By Elijah Flenner
May 29, 2013
rating: 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b

This one feels significantly harder than the other 12s on the wall, including Pinklebear. I want to give it 13a but don't have enough experience at that grade to know for sure. Thus, I will go with hard 12d until I know better. Great climb.

Edit: I am going to stick with 12d and not 13a.
By Skyler B
From: Fort Collins, CO
Mar 21, 2015

Super great line! Cool, little, initial boulder problem to a pumpy top, in my opinion! Felt a little easy for the grade of 12d, but that might be due to my height. Sweet line, if you're up at the Ech, get on it!
By Will Winham
From: Fort Collins, CO
Jul 2, 2015

This line is fantastic. Do the big move from the glued-on block to straighten out the line and add value. I agree with Skyler that being tall makes this feel a little easier, since I could keep my foot on the aforementioned block (12c). But easily my favorite on the wall (despite the glue). Get after it!
By Mr. Stevens
From: Boulder, CO
Aug 19, 2017
rating: 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b

This is one of the best sport routes I've done in the Front Range. At 5'7", this route has big, powerful moves one after another until the upper slab. There's great shakes throughout, but that upper crux is hard with a pump! The route feels harder than any 12d I've done and/or been on. Regardless of grade, it's quality all the way!

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