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YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 60'
Original:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Richard Rossiter and Glennis Walters, 2000
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Submitted By: Jake Wyatt on Jul 15, 2002

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    Start just right of a pine tree at the right side of The Wall of the Dead. Climb a corner just left of the arete to a ledge. Continue up another corner and move right to an airy stance on the arete. Work up to a roof, and turn it on the left. Step left and climb an awkward corner to the anchor.


    7 bolts to a 2-bolt anchor. A few longer runners to use by the roof can help with rope drag.

    [Eds. Note that the 2 bolts from Dead Zone aka Sarcophagus just to the left can confuse the unwary, onsight climber. If you clip these, you need 9 QDs.]

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    Jonas D'Andrea making the final moves to the ancho...
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    B cleaning up!
    Rock Climbing Photo: My First Outdoor Lead Onsight
    My First Outdoor Lead Onsight
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    The route steps left underneath the ceiling above ...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Christa working past the second bolt.
    Christa working past the second bolt.

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    By Ron Olsen
    From: Boulder, CO
    Aug 6, 2002
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    This is one of my favorite routes at Avalon. Fun, airy moves with excellent position. Also, it seems a bit easier than 10a. The move stepping left under the roof is more committing than difficult. Many of my friends who are not 5.10 climbers have cruised this pitch on a top rope. I'd give it two stars and rate it 5.9.
    By Ray Snead
    Sep 27, 2002

    RR calls this Dead Can Dance, 10a; see Tomb of Sorrows comment.

    A two star route on a one star crag. Parse that!
    By Ron Olsen
    From: Boulder, CO
    Sep 7, 2003
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    The move left under the roof is 5.9, not 5.10a; many of my climbing partners concur.

    This is a good pitch for climbers breaking into 5.9 sport leading.
    By Anonymous Coward
    Sep 8, 2003

    Two things I've noticed about you, Ron: You feel the need to post on every single climb you do (in this case, TWICE), and you seem to be climbing with (and posting photos of) a different woman every week. I guess I'm jealous.
    By Scott Conner
    From: Lyons, CO
    Sep 8, 2003

    AC: How do you know how much Ron is climbing? Perhaps he's posting on only 10% of the routes he climbs. That's what makes me jealous!
    By Joe Leiper
    Jun 16, 2004
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    Unique pitch; sustained and varied. The last several feet can mix you up. Pro is fine but there are a few spooky moves right before clips. I wouldn't recommend this to someone just breaking into 5.10 leading.
    By Peter Beal
    From: Boulder Colorado
    Sep 26, 2004
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    5.9,5.9+ whatever the grade, a lot of fun with good features, interesting climbing. Well worth two stars.
    By Richard Rossiter
    Aug 2, 2005

    Regarding Dogs at the Crags:

    I am not opposed to people bringing their dogs to the crags, however, if you do, you must be responsible for your dog at ALL times.


    It is not OK for your dog to bark at, or approach in an aggressive manner, other climbers coming up to the crag. If your dog is [territorial] and aggressive, leave it at home.

    It is not OK for your dog to leave a pile of shit at the bottom of a crag. As of this Sunday, there is a big pile of dog shit at the bottom of the route Dead Can Dance at Avalon. This is unconscionable and should never happen. It is not the dog's fault, but the owner's. CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOG or don't bring your dog.

    This stuff is just common sense and common courtesy.

    Come on people. We need to work together here.

    Richard Rossiter
    By Jason Haas
    Aug 21, 2008
    rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

    It is easily and safely led on gear.
    By Meredith DB
    From: Boulder, CO
    Jul 12, 2009
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    This climb currently has a spinner bolt.
    By Joe Henry
    Jul 25, 2010
    rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

    Our group consensus was this was 9+. Fun route with big holds. I've recently been leading on 5.8 and 5.9 but not sure if I was ready to lead this one.
    By Benten
    From: Denver
    Oct 9, 2010

    One of my favs in the canyon so far, great exposure, variable climbing, and nice bolts. Good job.
    By Fiona Dunne
    From: Boulder, CO
    Jun 4, 2011

    Has one bolt that spins somewhat - maybe the same one Dr. Evil mentioned?
    By Canon
    Jul 23, 2011
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    Loved it. 9+ seems about right. The last moves before the anchor were indeed committing. One longer draw on the bolt under the roof should cut out the rope drag.
    By Hiro Kurotsuchi
    From: Colorado
    Apr 29, 2012
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    A fun route of the "why does it have a plus" variety. Awkward/unexpected positions and being over vertical for some moves make it a plus for me. A great route because they holds are indeed big 5.9 holds, but you need to move smartly. If you're struggling with a move, consider that you're probably doing it wrong and need to look around for somewhere else to grab or put your foot to make it a 5.9 move.

    The 5th bolt needs the extended draw to avoid some ugly dragging - a shoulder length sling would be a good length.
    By JonnyGreenlee Greenlee
    From: Evergreen, CO
    Aug 30, 2012
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    I got a bail biner off this today. PM me if it's yours and you want it back.
    By Andres Fernandez
    From: Boulder, Colorado
    May 31, 2015
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    The best sport route we did today. I'd definitely do it again. 5.9+ seems appropriate, and if you're out of shape, it'd be fair to maybe call it 5.10a. Great problems going up, and all the bolts seemed solid. Distance between the 2 and 3rd bolt might be a touch long for some beginning sport leaders. Kinda reminded me of the Yellow Spur in Eldorado Canyon.
    By Andrew Locke
    From: Louisville, CO
    Sep 15, 2015
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    Certainly not 10a - "the move" is simply one of commitment, not difficulty.

    Get on it though! It climbs a lot better than it looks, and in contrast to a lot of bolted routes in the canyon, this one is pretty much on for its entirety. There are lots of good rests but very few gimme moves.

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