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Cut Loose 

YDS: 5.11a French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 70'
Original:  YDS: 5.11- French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Kirk Miller, Adam Schrader
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Kirk Miller on Aug 30, 2009

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  • Description 

    Clip the first two bolts on Bear's Choice then head left into the middle of the roof. Getting the jug that lets you Cut Loose is the crux, match and let 'em fly.


    This climbs the center of the roof, up... up... and away.


    7 bolts to chains.

    Photos of Cut Loose Slideshow Add Photo
    Rock Climbing Photo: On the easy part.
    On the easy part.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Easy climbing up to the roof section.
    Easy climbing up to the roof section.
    Rock Climbing Photo: A nice rest before the crux roof.
    A nice rest before the crux roof.
    Rock Climbing Photo: The roof crux.
    The roof crux.

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    By Derek Lawrence
    From: Bailey
    Sep 11, 2009

    VERY height-dependent crux! Felt 11+ to me, but I still didn't get it... (I'm 5'9"). Another friend (also short) got it and said it felt 11+/12-. Kirk makes it look easy, but he's 6'2"....
    By Doug Redosh
    From: Golden, CO
    Sep 16, 2009

    I am 6'2" and still had trouble. Wear pants for this one, as it is a knee scratcher.
    By Sung
    From: Denver, CO
    Sep 30, 2009

    Tough route if you are shorter (I'm 5'8"). I led the other 11 here clean, but no chance on this one even on toprope.
    By koreo
    From: Denver, CO
    Oct 1, 2009

    Lead this one today in that wicked wind. First try, got to the crux and was perplexed. The feet are horrible. I personally thought this wasn't very height dependent after I figured it out. Sure a tall person will have an easier time, but I'm 5'6" and I 'sent it on my second attempt. You have to get creative with your feet. Don't get me wrong though, the move to start the crux is hard as hell. If anyone wants my beta give a shout and I'd be happy to post it.
    By dameeser
    From: denver
    Mar 31, 2010

    I just jumped for it, so did my partner. Feet were not that important to me on that one.
    By Cael Bean
    Apr 19, 2010

    Climbed this on Sunday with 4 stitches in my right index finger, did not feel like an 11, felt more like a stiff 10. It really is a one move wonder, A nice undercling to a few good jugs, pull up then place your feet. Did it for the first time lead last fall also.
    By Sauce
    From: Golden, CO.
    Mar 14, 2011
    rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c

    Yup, very height-dependent.... I am 5'11", and I think it would be a different move altogether if I was 5'10". This is one where reach makes a difference for sure!
    By Fred C.
    From: Golden, CO
    Apr 29, 2011
    rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c

    Great route. Tough crux move if shorter (I'm 5'6"), but very doable. Took me a few tries to get it. It's an easy climb to the roof and after the crux move over it, but those few moves in between definitely define it and make it the 10+/11- that it is. Great bolt protection throughout.
    By Jon Zucco
    From: Denver, CO
    May 7, 2011
    rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c PG13

    I'm 5'8" and had to stretch pretty darn hard to reach the onsight (the key hold is an optical illusion in that it doesn't look like anything from below). After you gain the positive edge, it's just a high step and a hard pull to the easy stuff on the headwall above. This climb receives no fun points from me. Not worth doing IMO unless you are tall and trying to add an eleven to your tick list; it is an annoying 10+/11- move with ledge fall potential in the midst of a dull 5.7 face. Sorry to be such a negative Nancy; on a lighter note, the 11 face around the corner is among the best in the Denver area :)
    By Julius Beres
    From: Boulder, CO
    May 10, 2011

    I think this is the worst route at the cliff... maybe it is my being short bias, but it isn't any fun. Boring 5.7 climbing to the roof followed by a ridiculous reach. If you can get the jug, it is one interesting 10+ move to pull over the roof, followed by more boring climbing.

    I'm way too short to reach the jug and was trying to bump up on crap, but the rope kept getting in my way. Either you don't clip the bolt above the roof and risk a ledge fall, or the rope makes in very hard to get your hand up and your foot around.
    By percious
    From: Bear Creek, CO
    Jun 24, 2011
    rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c

    Interesting 5.10-ish moves for the first two clips give way to the roof. There was a hornet's nest forming at the roof which I demolished before finishing out the climb. The crux sequence is fun, and a bit committing. There are some small holds that are useful for shorter climbers under the roof. One 5.11 move guarantees the summit. You can clip with one hand off the jug off the roof with your feet dangling, not that I'd ever do anything like that ;-). Fun for spectators and climbers alike. Give it a go!
    By Jonathan Dykhuis
    Jul 14, 2011
    rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

    The roof is interesting. The rest of the climb is enjoyable but not difficult.
    By Robbie Flick
    From: Denver, CO
    Jul 30, 2011
    rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

    Definitely height-dependent. I'm 5'11" and have to leap for it.
    By J P
    From: Denver, CO
    Aug 28, 2011
    rating: 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b

    Even at 5'8" I didn't have to jump far to get the rail on the roof. I'm not sure height is an issue so much as committing to reach over -- it definitely feels exposed up there.

    The little left-hand flake on the lip of the roof helps a little, but you're better off throwing for the roof as soon as you have even a marginal grip on it.

    It might be possible that being too tall makes pulling over the roof more difficult. After you get both hands on the rail, you'd have to scrunch up pretty good to put your feet on if you were tall.
    By NickinCO
    From: colorado
    Mar 31, 2012
    rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

    1 move wonder. 11-/10+ I/m 6'1", it's not a bad reach, it's just committing. The jug is huge.
    By Chris Plesko
    From: Westminster, CO
    Apr 21, 2013

    I'm 5'11" +0 ape, and I can do the move statically. I'll decline to grade, but this is worlds easier than Walking with a Ghost at 11b.
    By Matt Powers
    From: Madison, VA
    Jun 23, 2013
    rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b

    Fun move, not as height-dependent as some would suggest. Just drop your knee. I'm 5'9 and can almost do it statically. The move felt like a soft 11a, the rest of the climb is maybe 10a.
    By JonnyGreenlee Greenlee
    From: Evergreen, CO
    Sep 26, 2013
    rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

    With a 6' 6 wingspan it didn't feel too hard, but I think 11- is probably appropriate for the less lanky people in the world.
    By Bruce Hildenbrand
    Jun 18, 2014

    In October 2013, Dale Haas and I replaced the hardware at the anchor with SS quicklinks and SS rings. The hardware was provided by the American Safe Climbing Association(ASCA)( They appreciate your support.
    By Top Rope Hero
    From: Was Estes Park, now homeless
    Jun 26, 2014
    rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

    Fun, gutsy, one-move 11- wonder.

    SPOILER ALERT! Ape arms help; if you got 'em, use 'em. All that liberally-chalked, intermediate bullshit is best left untouched. Grabbeth thy mighty underclings, lock that core down, and windmill your right hand up--all tha way up--for glory. Match, and indeed, cut loose. (Freeing the feet comes naturally. It worked well for me long before having read this description.)

    A word about the bolting, though. I call this one "gutsy" not because the falls would in any way be dramatic, but because the first roof bolt puts you in a bad way for rope burn. Far better would be to have put it high and right, out of the way. As is, I think your best bet for success is to gain the hero edge first with your right hand, z-clip left, then unclip that first roof bolt and THEN cut loose and continue. (All that may sound cryptic, but it'll all make sense once you're there. JUST REMEMBER TO SKIP ALL THAT INTERMEDIATE BULLSHIT...if'n' you're long enough....)
    By aikibujin
    From: Castle Rock, CO
    May 18, 2015
    rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b

    Mostly easy climbing with just a couple of bouldery moves, not something I’d go out of the way to climb, but an easy 11 to tag if you’re in the area. I don’t think it is as height-dependent as some suggest. I’m 5’7" with 0 ape index, and I did all the moves statically. The crux is protected really well with two bolts, one under the roof and one just over the lip. Clipping the bolt over the lip is a different story though, if you fall while clipping it, you’ll most likely hit the slab below. SPOILER ALERT: I clipped the bolt over the lip while hanging on a tiny crimper at the lip, before I knew where the jug was. This is a strenuous clip especially since your waist will still be below the roof bolt, so you can only pull up a bit of a slack at a time, but if you’re onsighting, it is a less committing clip, because you can downclimb back to the alcove and recover after. If you clip this way, I would do what Top Rope Hero suggested above: intentionally zip-clip first (to make the clip faster, but not less dangerous), downclimb to the alcove, unclip the roof bolt from climber side of the rope then reclip it to the belayer side of the rope (thus fixing the z-clip). Rest as long as you want, then fire up the crux taking comfort in the protection of a toprope.

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