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Jan 11, 2017
Marc801 wrote:
Ana Tine wrote: I'm responding because it's good to give a heads up of the Northeast region such as rain clouds and mosquitoes, but a statement such as Marc801 wrote: Living in NYC would be the worst purgatory imaginable. You may feel very differently. For me, I would never live east of Denver ever again. is your stamp saying don't go there, and not any 'hey watch out for this' kind of advice. ******************** I thought that statement was pretty evident that it was strictly my opinion. As I mentioned, I grew up within 30 minutes of midtown Manhattan, and went into the city a lot in my teenage and college years. My first concert involved sneaking out of the house when I was 13 to see Santana opening for Jefferson Airplane at Filmore East. I never even once considered living in the city. It's not for everyone. Again, my opinion, not recommendation, just like yours. Edit to fix the broken quoting function in MP forums.


You must have "an ax to grind"! ;-)
Kevin Heckeler
From Upstate New York
Joined Jul 10, 2010
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Jan 11, 2017
Bill Kirby wrote:
I would NOT wanna drive from New Paltz to Newark. Not shitting on anyone's plans, God forbid we have a discussion, but just saying..


I'd take it over the drive to Laguardia, but people travel to the Gunks from Brooklyn, Manhattan, LI all the time. Jersey would seem like the easier of the options, shooting down 287 (to I assume 280 looking at the map). You also have to assume early flights since they're probably getting to someplace for a late AM/afternoon meeting. Early would avoid much of the worse traffic congestion (?).

It's all great academic fun, but we are really only guessing on some of the important details and their personal interests since they haven't specified any/many of them aside from climbing and jogging.
Kevin Heckeler
From Upstate New York
Joined Jul 10, 2010
1,361 points
Jan 11, 2017
Kevin Heckeler wrote:
You must have "an ax to grind"! ;-)

Dude! I have a whole freakin' garage full of axes!

It seems that some people really get defensive when someone disagrees with their opinion.

BTW, Ana, NYC SUCKS!
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
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Jan 11, 2017
Kevin Heckeler wrote:
I'd take it over the drive to Laguardia, but people travel to the Gunks from Brooklyn, Manhattan, LI all the time. Jersey would seem like the easier of the options, shooting down 287 (to I assume 280 looking at the map). You also have to assume early flights since they're probably getting to someplace for a late AM/afternoon meeting. Early would avoid much of the worse traffic congestion (?). It's all great academic fun, but we are really only guessing on some of the important details and their personal interests since they haven't specified any/many of them aside from climbing and jogging.



I would argue you might get to LaGuardia quicker than Newark depending on GW Bridge traffic. I've sat on that bridge all hours of the day. I drive on 287 monthly and it doesn't get you anywhere near Newark.. taking 280 or 278 would take too long. The GSP might be worth a look though.
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
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Jan 11, 2017
Nobody in their right mind drives to EWR - drive to an NJTransit Park-n-Ride and connect to the Airtran. doligo
Joined Sep 26, 2008
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Jan 11, 2017
Bill Kirby wrote:
I would NOT wanna drive from New Paltz to Newark. Not shitting on anyone's plans, God forbid we have a discussion, but just saying..

Bill,

When I worked in Sterling Forest/Tuxedo Park and lived outside of Newburgh, NY I would use Newark airport all the time for international travel. The drive was 50 minutes from work and reasonable through NJ. When I lived 10 miles away from Bradley/Hartford I always found myself driving to Boston or JFK for international travel and the driving was far worse (I even missed two flights out of Boston because of traffic and construction re-routing during the Big Dig days.)

I still would pick an area closer to New Paltz for the climbing and airport access as opposed to Hartford or other CT locations.
Rui Ferreira
From Longmont, CO
Joined Jul 2, 2003
779 points
Jan 11, 2017
Rui,

I just conversated with a friend from Poughkeepsie and he said the same thing. He gave me some good directions and tips for traveling through the area.

Kevin, you're right 287 is the way.
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
40 points
Jan 11, 2017
Bill Kirby wrote:
Rui, I just conversated...

Owwwwwwww!
My eyes!!!!!
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
75 points
Jan 11, 2017
Never ask directions in the NYC region from someone who lives in Baltimore T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
730 points
Jan 11, 2017
T Roper wrote:
Never ask directions in the NYC region from someone who lives in Baltimore



Haha.. Not sure why I don't stick to my misinformation to the bitter end like everyone else. Oh that's right I'm a ....
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
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Jan 11, 2017
Bill Kirby wrote:
Haha.. Not sure why I don't stick to my misinformation to the bitter end like everyone else. Oh that's right I'm a ....


Baltimoron, you know I know. good on you!
T Roper
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Jan 11, 2017
T Roper wrote:
Baltimoron, you know I know. good on you!


Smh.. you don't know shi¥ otherwise you wouldn't post that :)
Bill Kirby
From Baltimore Maryland
Joined Jul 21, 2012
40 points
Jan 11, 2017
Bill Kirby wrote:
Smh.. you don't know shi¥ otherwise you wouldn't post that :)
its OK half of my family describe themselves as the same. I'm officially a Masshole now, slight upgrade from Connectikook status
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
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Jan 11, 2017
T Roper wrote:
its OK half of my family describe themselves as the same. I'm officially a Masshole now, slight upgrade from Connectikook status

You mean significant downgrade!
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
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Jan 11, 2017
Marc801 wrote:
You mean significant downgrade!


well Marc801 (formerly known as Marc203) I'd like to hear that argument for sure! Really though, I live on the line and run my business in CT mostly so really I go both ways(thats what she said). If I had to make a choice it would be easy, legal weed, better rock, better skiing, Mitt Romney(wink wink), whats not to like?
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
730 points
Jan 11, 2017
T Roper wrote:
well Marc801 (formerly known as Marc203) I'd like to hear that argument for sure! Really though, I live on the line and run my business in CT mostly so really I go both ways(thats what she said). If I had to make a choice it would be easy, legal weed, better rock, better skiing, Mitt Romney(wink wink), whats not to like?

Boston. ;-)
Marc801
From Sandy, Utah
Joined Feb 25, 2014
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6 days ago
Marc801 wrote:
BTW, Ana, NYC SUCKS!
No I ♥ NY shirt for you!
Nick Votto wrote:
Sure, New York is arguably one of the greatest cities in the world, and if your priority is millions of beautiful women, amazing bars and one of the best restaurant scenes on the planet, the best live music scene hands down, it would be a great choice.

I'm not into women, but IMO the best looking women as a whole I've seen were in South Beach, Florida. One model (from Boston) actually got me to carry her groceries down the block to her house she was so attractive I couldn't refuse. Least attractive women as a whole I've seen were in Los Angeles, CA, except the occasional snobby Beverly Hills girl. I gauge this by how attractive or unattractive I feel in a particular city. NYC wasn't that beautiful although you do see the occasional supermodel pair (they always seem to travel in pairs) but they seem untouchable, and not even human.
Ana Tine
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68 points
6 days ago
Alexander K wrote:
Florida is not the center of southern rock climbing. In the South (VA, NC, TN, WV, AL, GA) there are just as many routes on Mt Project as the North East. The difference is that the Rock tends to be bigger and better on average in the South. There is also lots of awesome sandstone along with the quartzite, granite and gneiss that the North East has. I know that Charlotte might be a bit far south but the argument can be made that its a better place to travel from as weather delays are seldom an issue. Summer climbing may not be the best, but plenty of high country stuff that's doable in the shade.


Charlotte sucks. All the rock is choss and it takes forever to get anywhere to climb. Anyone who lives in Charlotte is dumb and is definitely a Gumby. 1/10 would not live there. NE is the best place to climb.



Marc801 wrote:
Something that people in this thread are forgetting..... The OP said: "The only requirement is that I live near a major airport preferably between Baltimore and Boston. " When a company sets that as a requirement, they mean it. They're looking for that person to live relatively near-by, not a 2hr commute. They also want their employee to travel quickly, meaning lots of flight options, ideally many of them non-stop. In short they want their employee to be able to minimize travel time. Dinkey little airports like Providence, Manchester NH, Charlotte, Burlington, Hartford, et al just don't qualify. From the company's perspective, when they say between Baltimore and Boston and "major", there are really only about 5 or so. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they said no to living in a number of places strongly suggested by some in this thread. New Paltz immediately comes to mind.


Really good research there bud. Charlotte was the 8th busiest airport in the US back in 2015 in terms of passengers and it has expanded even more since. Boston was 17th and Baltimore was 22nd. In fact the only NE airport that beat it was JFK. Great job with your research bud.

Edit: Correct, JFK is not in NE. JFK is between Baltimore and Boston. I got burned.
WTylerOsborne
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6 days ago
JFK is not in NE. LibTech
Joined Oct 20, 2015
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6 days ago
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
730 points
6 days ago
T Roper wrote:


haha yup. My aunt was married to a Portuguese guy. They are all from the Taunton area. And the CT river marks the line where you are either a Yankee fan or a Sox fan.
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
105 points
6 days ago
T Roper-

Where'd you get that? It's so perfect! Really funny.
Russ Keane
Joined Feb 8, 2013
522 points
6 days ago
Marc801 wrote:
It seems that some people really get offensive when someone disagrees with their opinion.


Fixed. ;-)

That map of Mass is accurate from what I can tell, and strangely specific in some of the details.

'Evil Empire' State lol
Kevin Heckeler
From Upstate New York
Joined Jul 10, 2010
1,361 points
6 days ago
Places To Live on T Roper's map
From south to north and only south, so in reverse order of preference if NE means New England
And Not North East.
1) at the 'O' in the word 'of' in the " annexed Territory . . "
2) by The last, 'n' of the word England, on the river ( possibly at the 'b' up river )
3)It is a tye, either 'e' the one in the word 'New' or the last
'e' in the Word " Worcester"

As for all that Red Sox V's Yankee territory stuff?
I climb all baseball season &
I am not a fan of game sports anymore other than in ( occasionally required )
casual social pass-time.



So torn ? It is an eternal conflict
Born in Boston, ( Blck nGld Bruins blood)
But. . . !
Raised in Jersey (teenage70sRx' rllz)

What & where are my opinions fro My?
$unk a ship Trying to make "The Gunks in my backyard " work out
Work for the long term,? Nope, epic fail.
I like where I am, Central North East Corridor easy 1hour drive to home stone in the Gunks.
And a wealth of variety of small crags in a 3 hr drive.
Then great highway options / short flights for farther southern warmth
At Red River & the New "
Michael Schneider
Joined Apr 24, 2014
615 points
6 days ago
Michael Schneider wrote:
As for all that Red Sox V's Yankee territory stuff? I climb all baseball season & I am not a fan of game sports anymore other than in ( occasionally required ) casual social pass-time.


well it's not just territory. It's kinda a personality indicator. Will they be a masshole or a NYC-hole. I always go Beantown. :o)
Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Joined Feb 15, 2006
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