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YDS: 5.13d French: 8b Ewbanks: 31 UIAA: X ZA: 32 British: E8 7a

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Original:  YDS: 5.13d French: 8b Ewbanks: 31 UIAA: X ZA: 32 British: E8 7a [details]
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Submitted By: Jeremy Noring on Jun 11, 2014

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A power-endurance testpiece. A hard start leads to a bad rest on underclings, followed by continuously hard moves on bad slopers to the chains. Not difficult to do any of the moves individually; hard to put them all together.


Just to the left of Cop Killer and the right of I'll Take Black.


bolts to fixed anchors.

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By Todd H
From: Sandy, UT
May 17, 2015

A couple holds have broken over the years. I believe this may be harder than 13d now, or it's at least a little harder than it was before.
By Jeremy Noring
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
May 22, 2015

Very possible; I did this route in the late 90s, and it's AF, so....likely harder than 13d at this point, not even counting the polish factor.
By ferrells
Dec 20, 2015

As long as everyone is afraid to be the first to say that it's 14a now (same with post-break dead souls), it will always be considered 14a in everyone's minds, but we will keep saying 13d to each other.
Jens always talked about the "brave downgrader" - it takes a lot more guts to upgrade. Cue the guy who pipes in to say "it isn't that hard":
By Jeremy Noring
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
Dec 23, 2015

Ferralls, the grade mountain project shows *is* the consensus grade. If you've done the route and you think it's 14a, then grade it that. It's that simple.

When I did the route, there was general grumbling about it being 13c/d. I've seen recent mention of it just being 14a now (likely due to hold breakage, like you mention). That said, I have no skin in this game: I sent this route nearly two decades ago and I'm well aware of the ever-changing nature of AF climbing. It could be 14c for all I know.

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