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Behavior Issues 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a

Type:  Sport, 2 pitches, 200'
Original:  YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ ZA: 18 British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Michael Kimm, Summer 2011
New Route: Yes
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Submitted By: Michael Kimm on May 17, 2012

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Climbing Behavior Issues. 6/29/16.

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Pitch 1: Start as for Hippie Vest. From the little tower, follow the diagonal seam and the corresponding boltline up and right to an anchor below a left facing corner. 5.10a.
Pitch 2: Climb the corner to a thin crux just below a large sloping ledge. Run it out up the easy wide crack (5.3) to an anchor. 5.9+.


Rappel with one 60m rope.


Bolts to chains.

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By Eric-D
From: Las Vegas, nv
May 31, 2012

We did the 2nd pitch only after Broad Borders. I would rate the 2nd pitch as 5.9 or maybe 5.9+ on the one move over the bulge.
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Oct 6, 2013
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

agreed, second pitch is probably 5.9+/5.10-, but it might get harder below the crux as it's a bit crispy.

the first pitch is quite good, definitely harder than the second and more sustained as well. worth doing for sure.
By Steve Jones
Nov 28, 2014

VERY DANGEROUS. This climb has a big hollow flake on it that you have to use to climb it. You can see light around both sides of the flake. There is even a bolt in the flake, maybe this is what's holding it to the wall.

Appropriately named route though. If you pull the flake off (which you probably will), you and/or your partner will have Behavioral Issues resulting from acute trauma, if either of you manage to survive.
By Michael Kimm
From: Las Vegas, NV
Nov 30, 2014

Umm.... There is no big hollow flake on this route. You're thinking of Trust me, I Lie, which crosses this line. The bolt that is "in the flake" is actually in a patch of completely solid rock between two hollow flakes. Yes, they're hollow. They also won't break unless you go up there with the express intention of removing them from the wall.
For anyone else that feels the need to spew vitriol about how dangerous things are on this wall: shut up. They're not. Period. The bolts and anchors are good. Might something break? Yep. Just like holds still break off trade routes at the Gallery nearly thirty years after the fact. You don't like the possibility of an edge snapping or a foot popping? Fine. Go deal with the crowds in the Corridor. But call something of mine UNSAFE because you can't climb gently or evaluate what's good or bad rock? Go to hell.
By MaxCat
Mar 22, 2016

Very fun route. Thanks for putting these up Michael. As I posted on Hippie Vest...pretty annoyed by the safety comments on this wall. The bolts are perfectly good, the flake was fun, and the route was not scary. Lots of folks might be better of staying in the gym... Thank you, Michael, for putting these routes up!
By John Hegyes
From: Las Vegas, NV
Jun 30, 2016

This was such a fun route. Nice work putting it up. I linked both pitches into a single long pitch with a 60m rope. We probably had about 7 feet of rope left over. Made two single rope rappels. There is a family of bats living in the crack at the start of pitch two. Thanks again for the route development.

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