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Beat Around the Bush 

YDS: 5.7+ French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Trad, Alpine, 1 pitch, 100'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
Season: spring through fall
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Submitted By: Chuck McQuade on Dec 31, 2006

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Tamara throwing the climbs roof crux


When combined with Estrellita these two 1-pitch routes are great for a leader breaking into the 5.8 range. If necessary an anchor can be set by carefully scrambling up the back of the formation.

The route starts 5 feet left of the more popular Estrellita. Follow a left tending crack , past a bush to a small roof. Once over the roof follow a system of cracks to the top of the formation, where a belay can be set. This belay is shared with Estrellita.


Standard rack to a #2 Camalot.

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By Robin
From: Albuquerque, NM
May 26, 2009
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

An excellent partner to Estrellita. I feel that this one is not as straight forward as Estrellita. It is a little more heady I think. Still very worth doing if you are in the area.
By Unassigned User
Jul 10, 2009

I agree with Robin -- trickier than Estrellita.
Good call.
By Bill Lawry
From: New Mexico
Aug 17, 2009
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Hmmm, but then I'd have to bring Estrellita down to 5.7. :-)
By BrianH Pedaler
From: Santa Fe NM
Aug 28, 2009

I think the older Hill guide gives Estrellita a 5.7 rating, it's a little surprising to see it 5.8 in various other places.

Nonetheless, I'll take it!
By Robin
From: Albuquerque, NM
Jul 25, 2016
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

Well to be more specific I think Beat Around The Bush is not harder than Estrellita, but rather it is a bit scarier with the high first piece and it is also a bit trickier with the odd move at the little roof.

I think Estrellita required a few physically more difficult moves, but it has great pro the entire way so you can't ever feel too scared.

Based on that I rated them 5.8 for Estrellita and 5.8- for Beat Around The Bush. But that's my opinion so you may find yours is different.

Either way both worth climbing.

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