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Bat Cave Area Rock Climbing 

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Bat Cave Trails and Cliff Sectors


This is currently the main developed area above Caballo Lake. There are several areas here, Gotham City, The Bat Cave, Grey Wall? and Stuff Left of the Cave ETC.

Getting There 

Driving to the Bat Cave area requires a high clearance vehicle to get within reasonable hiking distance. From the interstate exit, the first 3.5 miles is on pavement and good dirt roads. The final 2 miles is very rocky but passable with "Subaru/Rav4" SUV clearance. The final 1/2 mile is the worst and there is a good parking/camping option at this "T" intersection.

From I-25 take Exit 59 (Arrey Derry/ Caballo Percha State Parks) exit.

If coming from the north, turn right (southwest) at the exit onto highway 187 and drive for 2.7 mi.
Take a left onto W. Wagoneer Rd. and drive for 1.1 mi.
Take a left onto Sugar Sand/Tumbleweed Rd. for 0.7 mi.
Veer right onto dirt for 0.2 mi.
Take a left at "T", drive under highway in single lane tunnel for 2.6 miles to fork at the dam.
From the dam, continue for about 3.5 miles to the rough "4x4" road(sometimes a rock carin here.) Turn right onto this rocky track and go about .7 miles to a rutted hill--this section requires "Subaru" clearance but isn't too bad.
Bear left on the fork at .9 miles, continue to the final fork at 1.5 miles and go right. This is a good "low clearance" camp option. Continue past a few ruts to the final hill (another parking option) and go up this to the final "T" at 1.9 miles. This is the best parking spot instead of the end of the road since several cars can park here. Walk or drive east up to the high camp. The road ends just beyond the high camp and is the access to Gotham City. The main trail to all the other crags begins from the north end of the "High Camp". Hiking to the high camp and using this less steep trail is more sustainable than the steep trail which starts at the end of the other road beyond that final parking "T".

There are two good parking/camping areas where the hiking trail starts.
For the first (lower) one take the left and continue to the end.
For the second (higher) one continue .25 mi to the end. There are two flat spots and several areas for a rough campsite.

The trail to Tufa Wall heads up right a few hundred feet from the start of the high camp main trail. The main trail forks right onto the steep trail a few hundred feet before the 3rd class rock band. The 3rd class band is dog accessible- small and old dogs may need some help. Above the rock band, follow the steep trail up the drainage and talus to the South Face of Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall). Go right here for South Tower and The Barr. Go left to West Face of Super Hero and Bat Cave, Villian Wall and Trojan Wall.

Climbing Season

Weather station 4.1 miles from here

77 Total Climbing Routes

['4 Stars',7],['3 Stars',46],['2 Stars',20],['1 Star',2],['Bomb',0]

Classic Climbing Routes in Bat Cave Area

Mountain Project's determination of the classic, most popular, highest rated climbing routes for Bat Cave Area:
Harley Quinn Devotion   5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Villain Wall
Two Face   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Sport, 90'   Villain Wall
I'll Be Your Poison Ivy   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 80'   Villain Wall
The Oracle   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Scorpion Queen   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Lucius   5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   New Beginnings Wall
Tufa Consequences   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 55'   Tufa Wall
Mega Man   5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 95'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
The Iliad   5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b     Sport, 110'   Trojan Wall (Right of Bat C...
Dynamic Duo   5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b     Sport, 60'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Bane   5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 90'   New Beginnings Wall
Silver Surfer   5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c     Sport, 97'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Super Hero   5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c     Sport, 2 pitches   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Hide & Seek(a)   5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a     Sport, 70'   Bat Cave
Trojan Horse   5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a     Sport, 110'   Trojan Wall (Right of Bat C...
White Washed   5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a     Sport, 100'   New Beginnings Wall
The Odyssey   5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a     Sport, 2 pitches, 180'   Trojan Wall (Right of Bat C...
Old Man Direct   5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 80'   Bat Cave
New Beginning   5.12+ 7c 28 IX 27 E6 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 100'   New Beginnings Wall
Bella Donna   5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c     Sport, 90'   Bat Cave
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Rock Climbing Photo: The approach. The Bat Cave is mostly visible in th...
The approach. The Bat Cave is mostly visible in th...
Rock Climbing Photo: The Batcave
The Batcave
Rock Climbing Photo: Ed and Mike climbing at The Bat Cave Bella Dona/Gl...
Ed and Mike climbing at The Bat Cave Bella Dona/Gl...
Rock Climbing Photo: The Bat Cave from the approach trail.
The Bat Cave from the approach trail.
Rock Climbing Photo: View of the Bat Cave, the Villain Wall, and the Su...
View of the Bat Cave, the Villain Wall, and the Su...
Rock Climbing Photo: Panorama photo showing the Bat Cave, Walls left of...
Panorama photo showing the Bat Cave, Walls left of...

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By LeeAB Brinckerhoff
From: ABQ, NM
Aug 26, 2009
Please note that this area is very new. The trails are not well established, take your time getting on the correct trail to limit erosion, it will also save you a bunch of time getting to the crag.

LOOSE ROCK The bolts maybe in but a lot of the route may or may not be cleaned yet due to the amount of work involved in bolting on lead. The goal of the people out bolting to this point has been to get to the top of the cliff so that other routes can go in top down, so many of the route have not had a good cleaning and have not been climbed on.

Also please respect the opportunity of those bolting the routes to climb them. There is plenty of rock that has not been touched, if you need to get an FA just do a little walking or go up one of the routes to access the top and put in another line.
By jbak
Aug 26, 2009
I been looking at that cave every time I drive by... for years... what's the approach time ?
By LeeAB Brinckerhoff
From: ABQ, NM
Aug 26, 2009
At this time it is hard to guess the true approach time as everyone that is walking in, every time is carrying a drill a bag of bolts and extra batteries. That said I think it is taking a little over 1/2 an hour from the end of the road and in the future when we are not hauling loads it will be a little under. This is for the Bat Cave itself, the Grey Wall will be a bit longer. I have not done the hike to Gotham City but Bryan said the approach was pretty short, it looks like it may be in the 15-20 minute range. If you can't make it to the end of the road you will need to add up to a mile of steep hiking on the 4x4 section.

With all the driving on dirt roads this is pretty out of the way to check out on your way by. It would be better to bring a drill and just commit to a day up there and help contribute to the cause.
By Devin C.
Oct 21, 2009
So is this land legal? I only ask because I don't carry a firearm and was hoping to go check this out this weekend, but if its that sketchy I think I'll pass until its a bit more traveled.
By lance hadfield
From: tijeras
Dec 25, 2009
I have gone down several times with no gun and it seems fine I think you should be very respectful of the mining claims and locals but I think it seems fine.
By tim naylor
Feb 1, 2010
I wanted to call vista verde gotham city but it got turned into vista verde, which is the name of the hiking trail/overlook below the crag. Great theme for NM. Lots of bats in the cracks and pockets. Siiick looking area.
By Devin C.
Mar 15, 2010
I finally got a chance to go out there a few times in the last month or so. Hats off to those developing this area!!! It is certainly an amazing setting with an unbelievable amount of rock and beautiful views. The cave itself is mind blowing and the potential for development on surrounding walls is astounding. Once again Hats Off!!!

As a side note, we have not had any encounters with miners (or anyone else for that matter) but we're still a little cautious about the locale. It is very apparent that there has, at one point, been fair amount of mining activity in this area.
By C Miller
From: CA
Jan 14, 2013
Comments from a spirited discussion regarding the development of this area have been moved to this forum thread -
By djkyote
Jan 15, 2013
One weekend in February, 2011, we were exploring the canyon to the south east of where you park and encountered two miners bringing a load of dynamite to their claim. We were not aware that we were on their claim and were told to leave. They said that whole canyon is full of active claims and shouldn't be trespassed on. It did not take a lot of convincing because they each had assault rifles with scopes and a sidearm. We were told the bat cave is currently an inactive claim so it is fine to be on, but other exploring should be researched first.

The previous comments regarding carrying a firearm refer to my initial post that one may want to consider carrying in this area. That would be my reaction, but it is debatable whether this would be the best course of action for anyone or everyone. In any case, I was in no way trying to deter people from area, but to let people know who the other user group is and how they view the area.
By Taylor J
From: new mexico, new england
May 20, 2015
Does anyone know by chance if you get cell service here?
By Shirtless Mike
From: Denver, CO
May 28, 2015
Yes, I get marginal service at the parking area, but get great service up in the cave itself. The service is good enough I've surfed facebook while waiting for the shade to come.

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