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Bad Moki Roof 

YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: E1 5a

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Original:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
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Submitted By: Jared Brown on Jan 1, 2002

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Intense beauty on a rare downpour day. Bad Moki R...

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  • Description 

    This route is two routes right of Flakes of Wrath. It goes up the thin, slabby right facing corner, out the roof, and up a sandy slab/crack. It felt harder than 5.9, since I got really pumped placing gear in the roof, but none of the moves are that hard, it's just sustained. Don't lower and try not to toprope since there are really deep rope grooves in the roof. One groove just above the lip is deep enough to place pro in.


    Small cams and maybe a few stoppers for beginning and end, #.75 to #2 camalots for roof section, fixed anchor at top.

    Photos of Bad Moki Roof Slideshow Add Photo
    Rock Climbing Photo: pulling on this great but sandy roof
    pulling on this great but sandy roof
    Rock Climbing Photo: Prepping for the roof move.
    Prepping for the roof move.
    Rock Climbing Photo: just starting in to the roof section
    just starting in to the roof section
    Rock Climbing Photo: I found that jammin my right foot in the roof and ...
    I found that jammin my right foot in the roof and ...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ben setting up for the roof.
    Ben setting up for the roof.
    Rock Climbing Photo: Done with the Bad Moki!
    Done with the Bad Moki!
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ryan Sayers at the lip
    Ryan Sayers at the lip
    Rock Climbing Photo: Dan Russell starting the roof
    Dan Russell starting the roof
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ryan Sayers on the initial slab
    Ryan Sayers on the initial slab
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ryan Sayers on the roof
    Ryan Sayers on the roof
    Rock Climbing Photo: Shane gettin down with his bad self!
    Shane gettin down with his bad self!
    Rock Climbing Photo: Dashiel Kulander climbing towards crux. Photo take...
    Dashiel Kulander climbing towards crux. Photo take...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Ben takes a fall at the roof (pussy) but it's a co...
    Ben takes a fall at the roof (pussy) but it's a co...
    Rock Climbing Photo: Bad Moki Roof with Flakes of Wrath to the left
    BETA PHOTO: Bad Moki Roof with Flakes of Wrath to the left
    Rock Climbing Photo: Dan Russell on the roof
    Dan Russell on the roof
    Rock Climbing Photo: B Moki
    B Moki
    Rock Climbing Photo: Setting up for the roof.
    Setting up for the roof.

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    By Charles Dalgleish
    From: Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct 27, 2002
    rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

    Love the climb. Makes for an interesting show for the road crowd while you go inverted, or worm your way through the lip of the roof.

    Great climb that leaves you crying for more. Gets the blood flowing nicely for flakes of wrath next to it.

    The route ain't harder than an eight. Unless you're a gym climber. It's easier than owl rock and sybernetics, both solid eights. Just remember, this is the dessert. The route has also changed a bit in the past 12 years too, since about 6 years ago someone pulled the flake on the left of the roof (where you could rest)but there's still a huge jug at the crux move, bring you're feet up right.

    Please don't lower, the rock already has taken serious punishment. Save your rope and the rock and rappel.
    By Anonymous Coward
    Nov 27, 2002

    I also agree with the lowering comment. It is easiest to keep your belayer at the anchors for a party of two.
    By KPRTX
    Dec 11, 2002

    Great route! Good place to start getting the arms workin'. You don't even have to lead it! DO belay from the top to respect the rock. Very nice short 5.9 section.

    Dont let your rope suck up in the crack or rub excessively in the groves over the roof, be nice and rap the route.
    By Dynomight510
    Sep 29, 2003
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    The first few placements are adequate and the quality of gear placements increases leading up to the roof. This is quite the desert sandbag and woudl rate it 5.9 dues to it's sustained nature. Rap the route and I don't reccomend top roping due to the rock wear from the rope.

    Fun and wild

    Sandbag at 5.8
    By Shane Zentner
    From: Colorado
    Feb 11, 2004
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    Burly, very burly. Solid 5.9
    By Anonymous Coward
    Aug 12, 2004

    Hard and weird 5.9.
    By utfreeclimber
    From: Sandy, UT
    Mar 21, 2006
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13

    I don't know about this one. It's definitely 5.9, maybe 5.8+, once you find the jugs to yard on but even after you pull the roof it's still kinda squirmy and slopey to the finish. One piece of advice... don't try climbing this thing using fist jams and offwidth technique or else this stupid little roof'll feel like a hard 5.11 crack, look for the jugs.
    By mark chytka
    From: laramie wy
    Apr 20, 2006
    rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

    this route is awesome and if you climb it right it will feel like a solid 5.8 this climb has some awesome hidden features that make pulling the lip easy and fun. the lip is a little sandy and to the anchors is very sandy as well.
    Please don't toprope this route it tears up the rock. the grooves in the roof are horrific.
    By Mark Michaels
    From: Draper, UT
    Sep 28, 2006
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    Crux is short but stout, in my opinion. Don't know about any secret holds that make this 5.8?? Fun climb, with a touch of sandy groveling to spice it up.
    By Greg D
    From: Here
    Apr 15, 2007

    Tony, I appreciate your effort replacing the anchor, but I'm confused at your choice of location. Your new bolt does not equalize with any of the other anchors when rapping. Please explain.

    Edit: does not apply anymore with the new anchors.
    By Dane Casterson
    From: Boulder
    Apr 16, 2007

    Tough at 5.9 but i dont have much experience in the desert. Found one jug under the lip of the roof but it got a little desperate for me after that. Am i missing something or is this route a good representation of what desert 5.9 crack moves feel like?
    By Jonathan Schumacher
    From: Sandy, UT
    Jun 20, 2007

    Enjoyable climb. Made the mistake of lowering (belayer wasn't up for the climb).... Nightmare...
    By T-Bob
    Apr 4, 2008
    rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

    This and Flakes of Wrath are by and far the best routes I've found on Potash. Talk about a blast of a route with great gear. It's not often a slug like myself get's to pull 6ft. roofs on trad gear(or any kind of gear for that matter!). I found a wicked solid kneebar just under the roof which conveniently blocked me from getting any good jams in the roof section. Had to hang on piece and reset. It went right away after I discombobulated myself.
    By Monkey Den Climber
    From: moab, utah
    Oct 25, 2009

    saw new anchors today..... yay, no more having 2 rap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they r right above the roof now
    By grk10vq
    Oct 26, 2009


    it would be great if it were possible to re-position the anchors for Flakes on Wrath as well so the roof doesn't eventually get sawed in half.
    By kimi hashimoto
    Mar 30, 2010

    Is this route really 5.9? I tried 3times.It has nice but bad roof, I felt so fun.My hands are relatively small,but the crack is thin-hand(#1.5friend) for me.
    the protection are orange and red TCUs,#2friend,#1.5friend,#3friend.Nuts(wired) are no necessary.
    By Daniel Hansen
    May 27, 2011

    Does anyone know what the route that shoots off to the right of the roof is? Its new this year so I don't think its in any of the guides
    By Luke Malatesta
    From: Moab Utah
    May 28, 2011

    The route would be "Horizontal Mambo" . It goes @ .12d
    By Michael Ybarra
    From: on the road
    Mar 28, 2012

    Anyone who thinks this is easier than Owl must be smoking crack. I didn't even think of using a rope on Owl, but Moki was no gimme. I did it twice and didn't find any jugs. Worth doing for sure.
    By Skylar Smith
    May 20, 2012

    This route is definently not 5.9. This is a solid 5.10. Nice finger crack in the beginning, but the rough was gnarly for me. For me it was cupped hands most of the way. I'd say this is harder than the Incredible Hand Crack.
    By Hendo Henderson
    From: Denver, CO
    Oct 23, 2012

    I fist jammed and foot jammed the overhang part. Very fun this way and extremely burly. After I climbed though, a friend climbed and had found a secret jug. Looked like it made the climb significantly easier!
    By Jordan Hirro
    From: Colorado Springs/Carbondale
    Oct 2, 2013

    Can you say perfect hand crack roof? A must do! Definitely solid 5.9 after the slab. Lowering kinda sucks but eh, still a rad line. Bring finger sizes for the start and thin hands (.75 and 1s) for the roof. Maybe a 2 if I remember right. Rock on!
    By Josh Cameron
    From: California in my Mind
    Feb 19, 2015
    rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

    Not crack, Michael, but cocaine. Just trying to keep it classy.

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