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Awful Width 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  TR, 30'
Original:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Tim Camuti on Mar 14, 2011

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BETA PHOTO: Dan's Delight 5.9, Training Pants 5.8 and Awful Wi...


Hard to start, but if you have good offwidth technique this will be a nice 5.8. If you don't have great technique, this will be a strenuous lieback climb that feel's like 5.10+


On the Great Flake, third crack from the left (or right).


Toprope anchor (2 bolts) accessible from the gully behind the Great Flake.

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By BrianG75 Gothard
From: Pioneer
Apr 6, 2014


Lie back the start, it is slightly overhanging and you have no good feet but their are good fist jams high. Once you get a few feet up its straightforward.
By Evan Wisheropp
Apr 10, 2015

There is a large pod halfway up the route, about seven years ago there used to be a giant block the size of the entire pod. I'd climbed this route a half dozen times, then one day while I was leading it the massive block broke loose, slid 4 inches turning the offwidth into a handcrack and smashed my left arm. We came back later retrieved my #6 and trundled the block.
Rock Climbing Photo: The block after it slid out of place.
The block after it slid out of place.

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