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YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 30'
Original:  YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: MJM & RAMM 8/07
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Submitted By: abc on Sep 1, 2008

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This is a short, sustained route on nice rock that has moments of looking like the good stuff at The Wasteland. If this route were 4 times longer, it would be a worthy route anywhere.


This is the first route to the right of Space for the Papa. There is some rock between these two routes that may sprout a route later, however.


4 bolts to lowering anchors.

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Nov 22, 2008

Quite a few climbers have posted our routes, which we normally have no problem with. We are disappointed with this particular route posting.

#1 It’s Michael … not Micheal.

#2 When posting one of our routes please post the original grade. Original grade is.11a.

#3 Please leave a detailed description of the route you have posted.

Start with cruxy feet but pretty good hands (especially a killer hand hold up and out left) to get established. A nice undercling will launch you to a great hidden in-cut up and left. Follow nice various Rifle side pulls/ in cuts/ slopers and good feet up and right past clip 2 to a fair rest at an intermittent crack at clip 3. Some great but unobvious hands with more good feet will get you to the anchors.

Nice stone with some sustained movement, albeit a short route.

Michael & Rachel McGee

BJ, you may want to re-read the top of page 24 in "your" guidebook.

Schuler's 7 year (& counting) hard on is funny as well.
By BJ Sbarra
From: Carbondale, CO
Nov 22, 2008

I would say he should post the grade that the route actually is. Many of your climbs are sandbagged, even for Rifle, which doesn't really do much for anybody. It's great you are putting up all these routes, but why not accurately grade them?
By Glenn Schuler
From: Monument, Co.
Feb 12, 2010

Not everyone wants a blow-by-blow "detailed description". It's a sport route, location & bolt count are all that's needed. I much prefer Brett's style of describing the route.
By Monomaniac
From: Morrison, CO
Feb 16, 2010

I like MJM's descriptions. Nobody's got a gun to your head; if you don't want the blow-by-blow, stop reading.
By Glenn Schuler
From: Monument, Co.
Feb 28, 2010

Fair enough, I guess there's a middle ground in there somewhere. Get me to the route & tell me what gear I need - describing crux holds & sequences just seems like a bit much to me. Agreed though, don't read if you don't want to know. Kind of hard once you click on the page however....

Oh, and the part about posting the grade as the "original" grade, well that's just funny.
By Michael Schneiter
From: Glenwood Springs, CO
Aug 11, 2011
rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c

I really like this route, although it's too bad it's so short and not 50 to 100 feet long. Then it would be 4 stars.

I think it's a little easier if you're tall, because I could reach from the undercling to the good hold next to the first bolt with relative ease compared to the "shorter" person's beta of using some crimps, which definitely seemed harder.
By davedad
From: Carbondale, CO
Jul 28, 2014
rating: 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

An extended boulder problem. Fun if you want short and sustained. No endurance challenges with this one. Too bad it isn't 35 meters.

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