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Apr 5, 2016
For your belay anchors, do you:

Option Alpha: rock the method with figure eights on each end

OR

Option Beta (bet you thought I'd say Bravo): Tie it off with triple fish's and use the continuous loop method?

Poll Style!

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Jeffo
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Apr 5, 2016
Depends on the anchor, but I typically close the loop with a flat overhand. Am I going to die? Nick Sweeney
From Spokane, WA
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Apr 5, 2016
I go with the 8's, when I use one. Just clip both 8's to one biner and you have a loop if ya need to BigB
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Yes Burcheydawwwwwwg
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Apr 5, 2016
Nick Sweeney wrote:
. . . I typically close the loop with a flat overhand.


This.
Crispy.
From Chicago
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Apr 5, 2016
Neither. Leave it untied. If I use a cordelette, I tie the ends into the masterpoint knot wivanoff
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Apr 5, 2016
My cordelette has a figure 8 on each end. Works great if you build an anchor with 3 or 4 pieces of pro that are spaced and you need a lot of cord. I used a closed loop for a while but haven't gone back after I switched to the figure 8 on each end. Chase D
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No tim
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Apr 5, 2016
Closed loop if you clip into the "shelf" above the knot. Gunkiemike
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Apr 5, 2016
wivanoff wrote:
Neither. Leave it untied. If I use a cordelette, I tie the ends into the masterpoint knot


This. Pre-tied cordelettes are dumb.
doligo
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Apr 5, 2016
Jeff0 wrote:
For your belay anchors, do you: Option Alpha: rock the method with figure eights on each end OR Option Beta (bet you thought I'd say Bravo): Tie it off with triple fish's and use the continuous loop method? Poll Style! J



Does how you tie it depend on the thickness of the cordolette? I was under the impression that the lower diameter cords should be doubled up if used as a cordolette?

Can anyone comment on this?
matt c.
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Apr 5, 2016
Matt, if your cordalette is so skinny that you don't trust a single strand, then it is not strong enough. The greatest advantage of a cordalette is flexibility in how you can build anchors. If you can't use a single strand going to a far-away piece, then you negate the primary benefit.

In my anchors class, we discussed the minimum amount of force that a belay anchor should be able to hold (the numbers escape me now). After this discussion, I looked up the strength of the 6mm cord I was using, and upgraded to 7mm after realizing that 6mm isn't *quite* enough for my own comfort level.

Regarding the pre-tied vs untied debate, I leave mine untied because I find myself frequently making funky anchors... one such monstrosity on the N face of Dragontail Peak consisted of a 10cm ice screw, a picket, a small nut and a .5 c4, all of which were equalized. Versatility is key!
Nick Sweeney
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Bryan Manning wrote:
I go with the 8's, when I use one. Just clip both 8's to one biner and you have a loop if ya need to


Good call!
Jeffo
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I keep mine tied off in a loop with a fisherman's. Ted Pinson
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fig 8s Nathanael
From Riverside, CA
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Apr 5, 2016
What I usually do:
Nick Sweeney wrote:
I typically close the loop with a flat overhand.


What I'm trying to learn to do:
wivanoff wrote:
If I use a cordelette, I tie the ends into the masterpoint knot
Jonny d
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Apr 5, 2016
Nick Sweeney wrote:
Matt, if your cordalette is so skinny that you don't trust a single strand, then it is not strong enough.


Alternatively, couldn't one use a low diameter cord but always use it doubled up? Like in a loop configuration?
matt c.
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Apr 5, 2016
matt c. wrote:
Alternatively, couldn't one use a low diameter cord but always use it doubled up? Like in a loop configuration?


Yes.
But at that point I'd use a 240cm dyneema sling like those made by BD and Mammut. You're already giving up some flexibility so you might as well get the real weight savings. I use one of these slings more often than I carry a proper cord, but it doesn't have the flexibility.
Nathanael
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Apr 6, 2016
matt c. wrote:
Alternatively, couldn't one use a low diameter cord but always use it doubled up? Like in a loop configuration?


You could, but why would you? Like I said, that removes the versatility of your cordalette.
Nick Sweeney
From Spokane, WA
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Jonny d wrote:
What I usually do: What I'm trying to learn to do:


Here's one way:


Here's the way I usually do it:
mojagear.com/learn/2015/04/09/...

Leaving it untied allows me to figure 8 or clove then ends, tie the ends into the masterpoint, tie a quad, use it for rap tat. Versatility to do whatever I need.
wivanoff
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Apr 6, 2016
I keep mine in a quad for bolted anchors. If they anchors aren't either bolted or a tree, it's usually multi-pitch and i'll use the rope. On the rare occasion I find a gear anchor for single pitch i'd probably untie the quad and use it end to end with cloves instead of figure 8s eli poss
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Apr 6, 2016
Chase D wrote:
My cordelette has a figure 8 on each end.

^what i currently do.
Nick Sweeney wrote:
typically close the loop with a flat overhand

^what i used to do
I go for 5-6mm cord depending on the objective, 6mm for cragging, 5mm for everything else.
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