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Afternoon Thunder 

YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 50'
Original:  YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Bob Archbold-2000
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Submitted By: Bob Archbold on Sep 17, 2002

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Luke Watkins Rappelling off Afternoon Thunder

Check NPS for Closures


This is the route in between "Misty Morning" and "Tranquil Evening" Climb up the steep face going over a small bulge with small holds


Just clip the bolts

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By Mark Watson
Feb 25, 2005

The anchors on this route are loose.
By S. Stember
From: St. Paul, MN
Sep 9, 2008

The first bolt on this route is about ready to pull. I made my way up to it, with the intention of leading it, and decided against it due to the bolts appearnce. It actually moves up and down significantly. Dont fall on that one!
By Brent Kertzman
From: Black Hills, SD
Sep 9, 2008
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

This route is only six years old!!!

A classic example of why hardware store bolts should not be used for rock climbing.

I tried to explain to Bob A. the problems with using hardware from unreliable sources. He told me quality hardware was just too expensive from his perspective and that quantity surpasses quality where he was concerned.

Just what is the cost of human life worth???

This route is one of many suffering from Bob's bolting on a budget blitz of new routes and replacement in the early part of the new millenium.

This is edging into criminal from my perspective based on the fact that Bob was the first BHCC-Permit holder for Mt. Rushmore N.M. Likewise due to the fact he is an EMT/Firefighter whom should understand the importance of quality bolts for the support of human weight/life.

Hats off to the BHCC for the evolution of replacement standards for hardware beginning in 2003. I believe in the future, standards need to be enforced and permits issued for all new routing in the entire Harney Range to prevent this type of junk from sprouting from the rock and too prevent botch jobs for someone else to repair.

I have talked with several other first ascentionists to encourage them to use higher quality hardware (which they have done).
By Chris treggE
From: Madison, WI
Sep 9, 2008


Brent, who is funding the re-bolting? Is there a website or way to contribute?
By Brent Kertzman
From: Black Hills, SD
Sep 10, 2008
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

The Black Hills Climbers Coalition is funding, permitted and performing bolt replacement in the Black Hills. More info can be found at Donations are welcome.
By Snake Ferguson
From: Rapid City, SD
Aug 25, 2010

Just don't fall...:P Creepy stuff though 8-o
By kmesser
Sep 22, 2010

Lots of FUN moves!
By Jimmy D
From: Rapid City
Nov 3, 2015
rating: 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a

The first bolt is totally threaded. Stick clipping the second bolt wouldn't be a bad idea.. Not a bad route, it just needs some love!!

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