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Nov 8, 2015
Party that rapped down ahead of us asked us to rescue their rope off P1 around 6pm today (Sat 11/7) -- it was clinging to the wall in several places, but we have it.

Sorry it took us forever to get there as we were trying to free our own doubles from the jaws of that evil chimney. You were gone by the time we got down.

Message me if you want it back... will be around 2nd pullout area in the morning, flying back to SFO by evening though.
wanda w.
Joined Jul 9, 2013
1 points
Nov 8, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: in repose
You kind soul... cassondra
Joined Nov 26, 2008
388 points
Nov 9, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: South of Windy Peak
Not sure I got the whole story here, but if the other party was too busy to stick around to collect their rope, I think it's yours now. John Hegyes
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 2, 2002
4,579 points
Nov 9, 2015
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It doesn't always shake out like that John H. This gal is doing the right thing and is the gal we all want to rescue our rope when it gets stuck. There is nothing harder than walking away from your gear, especially a rope. It isn't a spur of the moment decision. It's more like, *#&$, &#*$#, I have run out of options, daylight, gear, strength, etc. Hopefully I can get it back.

I had to walk away from a stuck double rope rappel because of darkness. We returned early the next day and a party had thrown the ropes down. Most people in the climbing community are kind and understanding. It's just good karma.
grog m aka Greg McKee
Joined Aug 29, 2012
115 points
Nov 9, 2015
Rock Climbing Photo: South of Windy Peak
wanda w. wrote:
Party that rapped down ahead of us asked us to rescue their rope off P1 around 6pm today (Sat 11/7) -- it was clinging to the wall in several places, but we have it. Sorry it took us forever to get there as we were trying to free our own doubles from the jaws of that evil chimney. You were gone by the time we got down.


grog m wrote:
It doesn't always shake out like that John H. This gal is doing the right thing and is the gal we all want to rescue our rope when it gets stuck. There is nothing harder than walking away from your gear, especially a rope. It isn't a spur of the moment decision. It's more like, *#&$, &#*$#, I have run out of options, daylight, gear, strength, etc. Hopefully I can get it back. I had to walk away from a stuck double rope rappel because of darkness. We returned early the next day and a party had thrown the ropes down. Most people in the climbing community are kind and understanding. It's just good karma.

Oh, I'm kind and understanding, but based on what I read, the party below couldn't even wait at the base while the party above took the time to help them out. I must be missing something, but that's pretty weak.

"Hey, Grog, see my rope up there? Can you unsnag that for me? That'd be grreat! Yeah... I'll be at the bar while you work on that..." Haha.

If it were me, I wouldn't have any interest in taking the abandoned rope home with me, but I sure wouldn't have packed it up and hiked it out.
John Hegyes
From Las Vegas, NV
Joined Feb 2, 2002
4,579 points
Nov 9, 2015
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John Hegyes wrote:
Oh, I'm kind and understanding, but based on what I read, the party below couldn't even wait at the base while the party above took the time to help them out. I must be missing something, but that's pretty weak. "Hey, Grog, see my rope up there? Can you unsnag that for me? That'd be grreat! Yeah... I'll be at the bar while you work on that..." Haha. If it were me, I wouldn't have any interest in taking the abandoned rope home with me, but I sure wouldn't have packed it up and hiked it out.

Stay out of it, dude.
Paul Hutton
From Boise, ID
Joined Mar 26, 2012
848 points
Nov 9, 2015
Chimneys can indeed be evil. Strong positive effort. Bill Lawry
From New Mexico
Joined Apr 16, 2006
1,718 points
Nov 9, 2015
The party right behind retrieved the rope and the owners couldn't wait around to get it back? Nothing wrong with wanting to return it to the owner but they don't really deserve to get it back. FrankPS
From Atascadero, CA
Joined Nov 19, 2009
284 points
Nov 9, 2015
All these comments and arguments by people who were not at the scene are very important. There are two main purposes that these nosy selt-righeous comments serve. 1: Identify internet tough guys that are too b.a. for me (so I don't respond to threads where they are looking for beta/partners). 2: Keep this thread at the top of the page so maybe the 1 or 2 people that it is actually directed towards can get their rope back. Hope that they are cool enough to hook up a six pack for wanda, and that they don't waste their time reading this garbage. The New York Times
Joined Sep 25, 2015
0 points
Nov 9, 2015
grog m wrote:
It doesn't always shake out like that John H. This gal is doing the right thing and is the gal we all want to rescue our rope when it gets stuck. There is nothing harder than walking away from your gear, especially a rope. It isn't a spur of the moment decision. It's more like, *#&$, &#*$#, I have run out of options, daylight, gear, strength, etc. Hopefully I can get it back. I had to walk away from a stuck double rope rappel because of darkness. We returned early the next day and a party had thrown the ropes down. Most people in the climbing community are KINDA understanding. It's just good karma.


fixed that for you

The New York Times wrote:
All these comments and arguments by people who were not at the scene are very important. There are two main purposes that these nosy selt-righeous comments serve. 1: Identify internet tough guys that are too b.a. for me (so I don't respond to threads where they are looking for beta/partners). 2: Keep this thread at the top of the page so maybe the 1 or 2 people that it is actually directed towards can get their rope back. Hope that they are cool enough to hook up a TWELVE pack for wanda, and that they don't waste their time reading this garbage.


fixed that too

bump

of course some people have jobs that require they show up on time
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
1,053 points
Nov 11, 2015
Hi Wanda! Yes, we are the team ahead of you with said yellow / green 60 meter rope impressively snagged on P1 of Geronimo. Firstly - did you get off that evening? We were concerned that you might have had to spend the night up there. It was chilly.

Thank you for posting here.

We actually had an engagement in town, so could not stay. On our hike out, we asked people we met if they needed a rope, to retrieve it in the morning and keep it. We did have to fly out the next day and came to the conclusion we had sacrificed the beloved rope to the Red Rock Goddesses / Gods. I've had it for 5 years at least. It's not damaged, but has seen lots of climbing.

Did you leave it in lost and found? If so, I'll call and hopefully can donate it. If you took it home, that's fine too. In retrospect, we should have asked the Canadian fellows were were rapping down with, Cam and Ron (?) to check on it in the morning since they were staying longer and could have adopted it.

Thanks Wanda! I messaged you.

I hope you had fantastic trip! It was my first time in Red Rocks and I loved it.
lynn henrietta haas
Joined Nov 11, 2015
0 points
Nov 11, 2015
Nice! Bill Lawry
From New Mexico
Joined Apr 16, 2006
1,718 points
Nov 11, 2015
hey lynn -- glad we connected here and that you made it out okay. you must have been the friendly voice making sure we didn't need search & rescue to come get us! thanks for checking before you took off... it was indeed cold and dark!

we ended up getting creative and simul-rapping off twins with the cold ends flaked over our shoulders so we could feed it out as we descended. not going to do that route again... i think it was sheer luck that our rope didn't end up sewn to the wall like yours was.

when i didn't hear back, i dropped the rope off at a local climbing shop since we were also leaving, and explained to him that i'd tell the owner where it was. will pm you back and let you handle it from there.

safe climbing!
wanda w.
Joined Jul 9, 2013
1 points
Nov 12, 2015
Hi Wanda. We appreciate your posts and dropping the rope off at the shop. I'll be in touch with them to see if it can be used...make one of the celtic knotted rugs out of it?

We decided on the last pitch after we had cleared the knot by pulling from an angle, we should have stepped close to the wall and pulled straight down. It's a a wonderful route, but a rope grabber to be sure. The moral of the story is....start early!

Take care and enjoy!

Lynn
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