24 hours of horseshoe hell partner wanted

Hi folks in April of 2017 the lottery for 24 hours of horseshoe hell opens and I'd like to get in. I'm looking for a partner for the competition if we won a spot. Here's the website if you are not familar twofourhell.com. I'd like to find someone on the East Coast. Currently my family and I are traveling in the motorhome around the country. But by April we will be back in the northeast area or more specifically southeastern Pennsylvania. Being the competition is in Arkansas obvious travel arrangements would have to be made. I do fly for a US airline and may be able to help you with a plane ticket. Although we would not have to train specifically with each other periodic meet up would be a huge plus. The only thing I ask is if you decide to partner up with me you are in at 100% (barring injuries) as getting a new partner closer to the competition in September of 2017 would be difficult.

Are you looking for a team implosion?

The event sounds so fun. A bunch of friends and I tried to get in this year with no luck. I think it's very competitive these days. Hopefully you get it!

Im hoping with the lottery system it makes things a bit more fair. I hope these events don't turn into elitist climbers. It should be open to various climbers as I'm sure it already is. We already know the magazine folks will knock it outta the park. I just think it would be fun. Competition is great but fun is better.

Mark lewin wrote:Im hoping with the lottery system it makes things a bit more fair. I hope these events don't turn into elitist climbers. It should be open to various climbers. We already know the magazine folks will knock it outta the park. I just think it would be fun. Competition is great but fun is better.

1. Climbers of all levels are there

2. Climbing for 24 hours is not fun. If you don't pick the right partner, you're destined for yelling and failure.

jmmlol wrote:Are you looking for a team implosion?

If you pick a random partner that you're not able to train with this is definelty going to happen.

Not only that but if you only meet/climb briefly with your partner beforehand I bet you'll be rethinking that decision at 3am when you're on lead. Personally, that's not when I want to find out how competent of a belayer my partner is.

On a side note, if you want a widespread demonstration on how to misuse a GriGri, just walk around Horseshoe Canyon Ranch at 4am during the comp and you'll see some scary stuff.

3 am is a dark lonely time at horse shoe canyon ranch... Good luck finding someone you don't want to murder..

However.. 24hell is the best thing I've ever done.. delirium caused me to lose my pitch count and end up with 98 pitches instead of the 100 needed to qualify for next year... sooooo I recommend getting a third person to score for you.

You're underestimating how much time you will be together ... you'll be wating on lines to climb all day and night together.. unless you're sending 5.11+ all day

Dave Schultz wrote:I think it sounds fun, and sent Mark a message. Hopefully he gets the permit. Climbing is actually one of the few things you can do with someone you don't particularly like ... you just climb more and hang out at the belay less ...

You absolutely cannot make it through 24 with someone you don't like or know. When your toes hurt, hands are on fire, it's 4am, and you're hallucinating good luck with your "climb more belay less."

He's looking for a ringer!

1st of all one can not assess another climber over the Internet.
Some people posses the right qualities and qualifications to make
the sort of commitment needed for this event.

An alpine climber has no clock on an attempt.

This event is meant to mimic of that sort of climbing.

Trust between climbers is built up over time and experiences, that trust
goes in up and down cycles until each knows the other very well.

I'm sure that having met one of the parties showing intrest that he is
basing his comments on 'His' experience. He has made a practice of taking on all comers.
And has both confidence & skill in recognizing what's up, in realationship to safe practice.

This event has the most correct description of the experience built into the name.

Mark lewin wrote:Hi folks i. Here's the website if you are not familar twofourhell.com. .

No one can say they were not fairly warned.

It is not for exceptional climbers.in the sense of hard/high grade numbers.

Pitch totals and an understanding of what pace is sustainable is what strengths
are rewarded with a place in the next event

Bragging rights?
Well sure after the fact,
but this is much more of a self challenging character building thing.

When the experience of two climbers is in synch things, pitches flow .
Each benefiting from the others strengths, and trying to compensate for the others weaknesses.

80 hours! Seems to be the mental breaking point for most people attempting a high stress endeavor
This can be a training issue but it is very hard to go past that point.

I think both the OP and the this ' Dave Schultz' person are coming at this from a place where they know themselves.
Feel confidence that their experience, background and focus are up to the challenge.

I'm kind of sad that others , opinions, are leaning to ' hand wringing'
Live and let live Climb and let climb.

Mark lewin wrote:Wow some of you are blowing this right outta proportion. #1 I'm posting this here on the east coast page because I'm looking for local climbers. Someone I get to know and trust. #2 no I do not think this is an easy challenge #3 I climb because it's fun not because it hard. I have fun no matter what I am doing. If I went into it thinking for a moment I won't have a good time I wouldn't have posted anything. Lastly, I'm looking for like minded people, and before we start training I'd like to know them before any hands touch rock.

Ha! Perfect Mark, I was just trying to point out that you were not sugar coating this or glorifying it
in any way.

If it is not clear I'm totally jealous ! Time is a cruel master,
decades ago without fan-fare trophys or any recognition people got after this sort of thing.
The Super Moon Lunar event that just passed was the perfect opportunity for this kind of thing.

Wow some of you are blowing this right outta proportion. #1 I'm posting this here on the east coast page because I'm looking for local climbers. Someone I get to know and trust. #2 no I do not think this is an easy challenge #3 I climb because it's fun not because it hard. I have fun no matter what I am doing. If I went into it thinking for a moment I won't have a good time I wouldn't have posted anything. Lastly, I'm looking for like minded people, and before we start training I'd like to know them before any hands touch rock.

Mark lewin wrote:Wow some of you are blowing this right outta proportion. #1 I'm posting this here on the east coast page because I'm looking for local climbers. Someone I get to know and trust. #2 no I do not think this is an easy challenge #3 I climb because it's fun not because it hard. I have fun no matter what I am doing. If I went into it thinking for a moment I won't have a good time I wouldn't have posted anything. Lastly, I'm looking for like minded people, and before we start training I'd like to know them before any hands touch rock.

We're not though. I've witnessed the event and have friends who have done it. All have said how miserable it was. You do it for the suffering, not for fun. Your idealized view is far from the reality.

jmmlol wrote: We're not though. I've witnessed the event and have friends who have done it. All have said how miserable it was. You do it for the suffering, not for fun. Your idealized view is far from the reality.

I disagree.. I actually didn't suffer very much at all.. kept a good pace through the full 24 hours.. aiming for 4-5 pitches an hour trying to hit 100. I suppose I could have pushed harder but it was the first time so I was trying to keep a steady pace which I guess was a little on the soft side.. 98 pitches though and I was still smiling..

I will admit.. when it was about midnight and I realized I had 6 hours of darkness left and 10 hours of climbing it was a bit disheartening but other than that as long as you DRINK and EAT all day long and maintain your energy it's not too bad.. the rock is very forgiving on the skin there..

In case anyone was wondering it was well into the 90's and humid as hell last year.. Hottest one on record.

Credentials: my wife and I have done the event 11 times and once did the 24 and the 12 the same year.

It is not miserable unless you make it such. If you train hard and follow some of the advice that is posted on the 24hhh site, you will be prepared.
We love it and train hard for it and never consider it something to dread.
You will never regret getting to experience this unique event. Some, like us, take it serious. Others work on personal goals. Some just want to have fun and don't work too hard. If you get 100 routes for each of the team members, you get to early enroll the next year and are assured a spot. 100 routes with the amount of 5.7's and 5.8's available is not difficult. My wife had 140 done by the 12 hour point and ended with 206 this year.

thedogfather wrote:Credentials: my wife and I have done the event 11 times and once did the 24 and the 12 the same year. It is not miserable unless you make it such. If you train hard and follow some of the advice that is posted on the 24hhh site, you will be prepared. We love it and train hard for it and never consider it something to dread. You will never regret getting to experience this unique event. Some, like us, take it serious. Others work on personal goals. Some just want to have fun and don't work too hard. If you get 100 routes for each of the team members, you get to early enroll the next year and are assured a spot. 100 routes with the amount of 5.7's and 5.8's available is not difficult. My wife had 140 done by the 12 hour point and ended with 206 this year.

Y'all are misunderstanding me (or I'm not making myself clear). It's a great event and I fully get why people do it year after year, but it's something that you look back on fondly, not necessarily enjoy doing at the time. Spectating it, I didn't see anyone who looked psyched at 3am or in the morning. But afterward, the mood is great because everyone made it through together.

I just don't want OP potentially wasting a coveted spot in the comp because he thinks you'll find a good partner on a forum.

thedogfather wrote:Credentials: my wife and I have done the event 11 times and once did the 24 and the 12 the same year. It is not miserable unless you make it such. If you train hard and follow some of the advice that is posted on the 24hhh site, you will be prepared. We love it and train hard for it and never consider it something to dread. You will never regret getting to experience this unique event. Some, like us, take it serious. Others work on personal goals. Some just want to have fun and don't work too hard. If you get 100 routes for each of the team members, you get to early enroll the next year and are assured a spot. 100 routes with the amount of 5.7's and 5.8's available is not difficult. My wife had 140 done by the 12 hour point and ended with 206 this year.

You guys killed it this year! Didn't you're wife win like every freaking trophy? She's freaking bad ass.

Yes, my wife killed it. She won most points female with a new record 20,150. Most trad routes female with 48. Most routes female and overall (including men) at 206. Most 5.7's at 50. And she won Masters (45 and up male and female). Not a bad year. My spinal cord injury prevented me from doing much but I got in my 24 routes and did manage a couple of 5.9's.

It's all good! I'm just excited to even sign up for the lottery. Marathon and ultra marathon runners all do it for different reasons but the art of finishing such a task is as rewarding as starting it. I promised myself that I will NEVER look back and say "I wish I did...." that's why we sold everything bought a motorhome (kids and all) because I was tired of saying "one day." This is another "I will" event. Whether I look back and say "that sucked" or "that rocked" makes no difference because the question of what if will have been answered. Assuming I get it that is :) I appreciate the positive thoughts. I am getting some people who PM'd me. I'll get back to you shortly! Thanks again.

Plus it's a great motivator to train for.

I might be interested. I live in Franconia, NH and coincidentally grew up in AR. I have friends with a cabin near there who climb in Horseshow regularly and the husband has been climbing in HH for years. It would be possible for me to do it but would not be the easiest thing to work out, but possible. If you can't find anyone else hit me up and maybe we can work something out.