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Rock Climbing Photo: Half worn through cold shuts replaced with hangers...
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By Thomas W
From: Boulder, CO
May 12, 2006
By Bill Olszewski
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Sep 27, 2010
I wish people would learn to top rope on their own gear and rap routes when cleaning. Fixed gear should never be used for top-roping....
By Teigon S.
Aug 23, 2011
Agreed! I always feel like a jerk when I have to tell people why it's a bad idea to TR the chains and hangers, but I guess someones gotta do it!
By Kons Kourbatov
From: Aurora, CO
Sep 8, 2013
I always rap when I clean and top-rope off of my own draws...but oddly some local told me that it's cool to TR and lower off in CCC...what's up with that? Can't be the local ethic around here.
By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Sep 9, 2013
As many of you know, it's really hard to get a single local ethic, such a stated ethic probably represents a minority of experienced locals. Obviously, with the popularity of climbing certain routes, toproping and lowering through hardware such as the above necessitates more frequent hardware replacement and compromised safety for others until such replacement by motivated and financial capable folks occur. So, when in doubt, consider toproping through your own carabiners and rapping after your final ascent of the line. Thanks!
By Kons Kourbatov
From: Aurora, CO
Sep 12, 2013
Sounds good, Leo, thanks for the reply. I'll just continue rapping off anchors opposed to lowering.
By Richard M. Wright
From: Lakewood, CO
Sep 12, 2013
While I agree wholeheartedly with Leo as well, it is also well past time when the very dated hardware like the cold shuts used here should be replaced. For myself, the high grade steel used by Fixe, for example, should be used as replacement wherever this old gear is found. A lot of routes that were established 10 and 20 years ago were put in without appreciating the amount of traffic they would see or the stunning increase in the number of climbers that has emerged in the last several years.
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Half worn through cold shuts replaced with hangers and chains on 11-10-03.

Submitted By: Stich on Nov 10, 2003
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