Hardest climb/climber in the world?

Ted Pinson wrote:

Right.  Obviously, these routes are technically much easier than what he is capable of climbing on rope...but the act of soloing them is HARD.  Also, again: this is "No big deal" Honnold. ;)

Soloing is not HARD nor is it hard, I have done it plenty in fact it's probably the easiest type of climbing there is, sure there is some logistics and a bit of a head game to figure out but in the end soloing has no real factors that make a 5.13 solo vs a 5.13 lead any harder infact there are a few reasons why it's easier, No gear to worry about whether to extend it finding a good placement have it literally weighing you down as you climb, no rope to drag, all in all soloing is literally easier.

that guy named seb wrote:

Soloing is not HARD nor is it hard, I have done it plenty in fact it's probably the easiest type of climbing there is, sure there is some logistics and a bit of a head game to figure out but in the end soloing has no real factors that make a 5.13 solo vs a 5.13 lead any harder infact there are a few reasons why it's easier, No gear to worry about whether to extend it finding a good placement have it literally weighing you down as you climb, no rope to drag, all in all soloing is literally easier.

That's why everyone solo, except me, and maybe few others, because I believe in statistics and I wanna be able to read ridiculous shit on MP forums for a long time.

Fehim Hasecic wrote:

That's why everyone solo, except me, and maybe few others, because I believe in statistics and I wanna be able to read ridiculous shit on MP forums for a long time.

Would like to see these statistics.

that guy named seb wrote:

Would like to see these statistics.

This guy hiding behind his hanky is just ridiculous, I would guess he is no more than 16...  . ...no offence to other sixteen year olds. 

Ted Pinson wrote:

Mark: was the first thing you said the name of the climber?  That's pretty incredible.

http://www.alpinist.com/doc/ALP19/newswire-auer-dolomites-fish-solo

https://enormocast.com/episode-131-hansjorg-auer-finding-the-moment/

USBRIT Ross wrote:

This guy hiding behind his hanky is just ridiculous, I would guess he is no more than 16...  . ...no offence to other sixteen year olds. 

I wish i was sixteen, if i started climbing at 12 i would be in a much better state than i am now.

If you want to see what i look like all you need to do is ask, no need to play coy ;)

Or perhaps you where interested in a different kind of picture ;)

Anyone else have those 12 year old kids at their gym that walk up V7+ problems and annoy you? Sometimes I just want to go push them off the wall.

First time I ever went climbing I was 24 =/

Senior Hernandez wrote:

No, soloing could be considered risky, dangerous, brave, or courageous, but the presence of danger does not make the climb "harder". Not to deminish the risk or courage, but hard boulder problems are not hard because of the landings or the height, but because of the movement. If they are graded hard because of the height, they will soon be downgraded. If they are both hard and high, they then earn more respect and admiration, they become king lines and testpieces of mental grit. They have names and you will remember those names. But v17 is V17, and a V14 highball is not "harder" because it is more dangerous.  

Totally agree in terms of grades being objective regardless of the danger, but IMO technical difficulty is just one aspect of what can make climbing difficult.  Controlling one's nerves during a runout or pulling moves over marginal gear is mentally challenging - what's wrong with calling this  "hard"?  The UK E system factors both technical difficulty and seriousness into ratings, so it's not like it's completely unheard of to do.

Seth, who the hell boulders in TC Pros? :p  Awesome shot, though!

Maybe I'm totally off base here, but I thought the OP was getting at who is rock climbing the hardest these days. Our grading systems indicate difficulty and based on that it seems like Adam Ondra is likely the best rock climber. He's climbed at the high end of the scale in bouldering, sport, and trad. He's climbed rather large numbers of these routes/problems also.  For example, I think he's climbed about 30 15a sport routes. 

How did alpine routes and other dangerous types of climbing make it into a discussion about rock climbing difficulty (which is defined by grades)? It doesn't make sense to me to compare some scary/dangerous alpine route to a high end sport route. Respect should go to both groups. They don't need to be in competition with each other.

ViperScale wrote:

Anyone else have those 12 year old kids at their gym that walk up V7+ problems and annoy you? Sometimes I just want to go push them off the wall.

First time I ever went climbing I was 24 =/

climbing friend,

do not blame the children for your weak, limp arms flopping about, lack of technique, inability to control your mind, and lack of motiviation to improve by the suffering. you for obvious can begin the climbing at 36 and send down on the 5.14 by age 50 or 60 if you have the deep motivations, so real, so deep.

Jack Quarless wrote:

I'm really glad I'm moving towards the point on MP where I can just laugh at the forum and not feel annoyed, frustrated, or the need to prove anyone wrong. Half of the reason I read this stuff is to learn about awesome routes I didn't know about. Thanks community! Smiles everyone! 

Ted Pinson wrote:

Totally agree in terms of grades being objective regardless of the danger, but IMO technical difficulty is just one aspect of what can make climbing difficult.  Controlling one's nerves during a runout or pulling moves over marginal gear is mentally challenging - what's wrong with calling this  "hard"?  The UK E system factors both technical difficulty and seriousness into ratings, so it's not like it's completely unheard of to do.

Seth, who the hell boulders in TC Pros? :p  Awesome shot, though!

The E in british grading can mean literally anything actually it can mean it's exposed, it's sustained or it's committing, run out, etc etc the list goes on and it's utter wank, it's the epitome of everything wrong with british climbing lots of men thinking they are all macho because they were  8 or 10 meters off the ground with little to no pro and shit them selves while up there, the E grade is a relic as far as i'm concerned and i would rather see it retired and swapped out for french grading with the PG, PG-13, R and X system.

They were the only shoe with an edge at the time, cant use no edge shoes on the granite :/ I use miura vs's now. check out my friends website http://www.jamesdundon.com/

that guy named seb wrote:

The E in british grading can mean literally anything actually it can mean it's exposed, it's sustained or it's committing, run out, etc etc the list goes on and it's utter wank, it's the epitome of everything wrong with british climbing lots of men thinking they are all macho because they were  8 or 10 meters off the ground with little to no pro and shit them selves while up there, the E grade is a relic as far as i'm concerned and i would rather see it retired and swapped out for french grading with the PG, PG-13, R and X system.

They were the only shoe with an edge at the time, cant use no edge shoes on the granite :/ I use miura vs's now. check out my friends website http://www.jamesdundon.com/

Your a very silly boy ... best keep your lack of experience to yourself. 

USBRIT Ross wrote:

Your a very silly boy ... best keep your lack of experience to yourself. 

good argument.

that guy named seb wrote:

I wish i was sixteen, if i started climbing at 12 i would be in a much better state than i am now.

If you want to see what i look like all you need to do is ask, no need to play coy ;)

Or perhaps you where interested in a different kind of picture ;)

So many questions: why are you soloing with harnes, why are you taking off said harnes mid climb, why are you hanging off one arm - why not use a monster ledge right by your feet, why are you trying to impress your bloke, why?

That was pretty lame

Fehim Hasecic wrote:

So many questions: why are you soloing with harnes, why are you taking off said harnes mid climb, why are you hanging off one arm - why not use a monster ledge right by your feet, why are you trying to impress your bloke, why?

climbing friend,

you must cut your feet for absolute no reason whatsoever but for the photo! Yassssssss, myah, yesszzzzz!!!!

Tim Lutz wrote:

you should do press releases for the Special Olympics

adjective: best

of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality.

"the best pitcher in the league"

synonyms:finest, greatest, top, foremost, leading, preeminent, premier, prime, first, chief, principal, supreme, of the highest quality, superlative, par excellence, unrivaled, second to none, without equal, nonpareil, unsurpassed, peerless, matchless, unparalleled, unbeaten, unbeatable, optimum, optimal, ultimate, incomparable, ideal, perfect;

The Tim Lutz that I've shredded mtbs with in Colorado? You climb dude?!? Hit me up man!

I am the best climber in the world.