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"Cremains" on the summit

Baba Fats · · Philadelphia, PA · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 0
FrankPS wrote:

It's just ashes, right? No problem, in my opinion.

Are there actually bone chips? Still not a problem for me.

It will mix in with the dirt quickly, be blown off the rock by the wind or washed away with the rain.

Sorry if someone else mentioned this.  I didn't have time to read every post.  But a coworker of mine was in forensics before and she had once told me that when you are cremated, it's more than likely that there will always be some bone chunks that remain.  So if all of the ashes were dumped there, so we're the bones

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276
Mark O'Neal wrote:

C - At least put Papa Joe off to the side a little bit of the summit proper

Poor Papa Joe - RIP. I'm sure you didn't mean to start a controversy.

Andrew Krajnik · · Plainfield, IL · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 1,739
Lena chita wrote:

I would do nothing, and then tell my friends. :)

It is weird to me. While I think cremation is good, and scattering the ashes is fine, I usually envision some sort of scattering them over water, or something.. not sprinkling them on the ground. I think I would prefer burying the ashes and planting some tree over them to scattering them over rocks.

Yeah, I always picture more of a dispersal as well, as opposed to a pile.

My wife's friend lost her mother a few years ago, and they had her cremated. She was a huge Disney fan, so on the first anniversary of her passing, the family planned a trip to Disney World to remember her. There was some discussion about bringing her ashes along, and distributing them throughout the Disney theme parks. They didn't end up doing it, but I can't imagine Disney would have been okay with it, so they'd have had to do it covertly. All I could picture was Andy Dufresne in The Shawshank Redemption, walking around the prison yard, with rocks and gravel dribbling out of his pantlegs...

BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 340
Derick Page wrote:

....summits somebody has taken a dump on.

https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/scattering_ashes.htm

Holy schist gotta get on this one

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11

How about sweeping up the creamains into a bag and handing it back to the grieving party saying, "I think you forgot something here."

Emmett Lyman · · Stoneham, MA (Boston burbs) · Joined Feb 2011 · Points: 480

Glad I stopped by the forums today.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349
Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

I have had to do this for friends who passed away...

Why would you care? 

Why does it matter? 

If they got something out If it that brings closure then it would behoove you to not judge them until you have the context of outliving your friends or family. 

Burying  my friend's who passed skiing or climbing was disruptive to me continuing those sports. I ultimately stopped back country skiing because of the many people I loved who died in pursuit of the backcountry. 

 Spreading their ashes helped me grieve and move on. I did not always get that option. 

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

I'd want to be blown off the side not piled up.  

Matt Westlake · · Durham, NC · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 662

Compare your feelings of momentary annoyance and discomfort versus the state of the folks discussing the ashes. I think if you were to really put yourself in their place at that moment the answer would be clear. 

That said, dumping ashes in a pile on top of the rock is maybe not the best location - scattering is probably better. Still, you'd want to make sure there wasn't an updraft... I watched some kids lose a piece of paper at a clifftop and saw it go over the edge then come back, go down, and back up several times. I can only imagine how it would complicate the moment to have dumped ashes come flying back up and rain down on you. 

Ryan Bond · · Brookings, OR · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 70
Stagg54 Taggart wrote:

Ever see the remains after a mountain lion eats an elk?   That's as natural as it gets...

I was sarcastically summing up the post I quoted. I get sarcasm doesn't always scan online. 

wivanoff · · Northeast, USA · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 674

I've done this for a friend. Her ashes reminded me of a cross between kitty litter and concrete dust. There were no large bone fragments.

Jordan Whitley · · NC · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 240

 If it was me up there spreading someone ashes (which will largely be gone far away by the time it rains and gets windy again), and your response was B,C, or D; you would be picking yourself up off the ground..... I swear some of the threads on this forum.... How soft have people gotten?

Marcelo F · · Sacramento, CA · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 0

I don't see any problems. It's just ash. Reminded me of this too, which I always thought was a really cool idea:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1569014/Pauls-Balls

TLDR: A climber passed away and was cremated. Friends of his mixed small amounts of his remains with climbing chalk and made chalk balls for others to use around the world. Paul's remains were spread by his friends throughout the places he loved most.

Steve Sangdahl · · eldo sprngs, co · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 735

Some of you folks would be a little freaked out if you knew how many different climbers ashes have been scattered off the top of the Yellow Spur in Eldo.For me I don't have a problem with it...most were really good friends of mine and for some it's what they wanted. Cheers

physnchips · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0

Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa Joe's.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Chalk bag is a good Idea.... and so is this. I have some of Blitzo in this can.... it was his wish, to keep going on adventures, except no Valley trips. 

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,610

Humans are animals and like it or not there's rotten creatures all around you at all times when you are out doors. I wouldn't think twice about cremains.

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,610

BTW, my dying wish is to be left to decay at the bottom of the cliff I fall off of. Would you honor that wish?!?!

Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

Well yeah... especially if it was rifel 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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