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By Alex Temus
From: Small Town, USA
Jun 12, 2017
Just did this route yesterday and I think I see where you got confused.

The P4 beta is a little misleading and should say 45m for length. That belay station you mentioned (~15ft to the left of the crack) is only halfway up the pitch and your picture is of the crux for P4.

There are intermediate belay/rappel stations on all the longer pitches (1-4).
By Miguel D
From: SLC
Jun 13, 2017
Aahhh that would make sense. Looking at the beta now I can see it. Thanks for the input!

However, one question still remains in my mind, the beta says P4 (this one) can be freed at 5.10, but this section in the picture felt like 11b or so to me. Maybe I just didn't find the right beta, but I did get a clean lead freeing P3, so I should be able to do a "5.10" free pitch.

Anyhow, we'll probably just aid this section next time.
By Benjamin Anderson
Jun 23, 2017
I climbed Touchestone with Alex a few weeks ago and had the same concerns. In fact, we saw this picture and your question right before we did it. When I thought I was off-route, I yelled out "I must be where that one" As the .75 crack develops a bit higher up, right around when it turns into the awkward double crack squeeze thing in your picture, I felt it took a leap well above a 5.10 finger crack. I ended up aiding the last 20+ feet, which would probably be around C1+/C2. It was definitely longer than 25m, probably close to double that. Hope that helps.
By Greg Gavin
From: SLC, UT
Jul 28, 2017
Miguel that pitch is 5.10, but trickier than the other 5.10 pitches on the route so it feels harder since you're not used to looking for sneaky holds.
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Was I off route? This was the upper section of our 5th pitch, which felt harder than freeing the 3rd pitch. This pitch (our 5th) started off a very decent ledge about 15ft off to the left side of the crack for P4. I placed nothing wider than a #2 on P5, mostly .2 to .4s in the crux here

Submitted By: Miguel D on May 23, 2017
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