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Custer State park clibing guidebook?

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Joe Z. · · Prairie du Sac, WI · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 120

Is there a good climbing guide book for Custer state park and the surrounding area?

Thanks

Derek S · · Minnesota · Joined Dec 2015 · Points: 70

I haven't found Orenczak's book to be good, but it's better than nothing.

Needle's of Rushmore by Burr/Busse is an exceptionally great guidebook that covers everything east of Black Elk Peak.

J. Albers · · Colorado · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 1,926
jdereks wrote:

I haven't found Orenczak's book to be good, but it's better than nothing.

Yeah, I own that book and yes, it is better than nothing, but not by much. Pretty terrible book.

On the other hand, the Burr book for the surrounding area is fantastic. Great info, pics, and history.

Jason Todd · · Cody, WY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,114
J. Albers wrote:

Depends on the metric you are using.  It has a very high page count to number of routes. And the car with surfboard grade school collages really tie the narrative together.

J. Albers · · Colorado · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 1,926
Jason Todd wrote:

Depends on the metric you are using.  It has a very high page count to number of routes. And the car with surfboard grade school collages really tie the narrative together.

Routes per page is irrelevant if there is so little information that you can't find the route or spend three hours figuring out what is what. Both the Burr book and the Orenczak book are the same price and they are lightyears apart in quality.

Mike Gibson · · Payson, AZ · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 0
J. Albers wrote:

Routes per page is irrelevant if there is so little information that you can't find the route or spend three hours figuring out what is what. Both the Burr book and the Orenczak book are the same price and they are lightyears apart in quality.

Nobody gets sarcasm anymore.  I appreciated it tho.

Jason Todd · · Cody, WY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,114

In total agreement with you. The routes/page (or in the case of the Orenczak book, pages/route) was a bit tongue in cheek with regards to how worthless the book was. Why fill a guidebook with useful climbing info when there is "art" to be had.

As far as CSP guidebooks, there aren't really any worthwhile ones currently in print.  MP is the best source for now.

the museum · · Summerset, SD · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 145

the museum 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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