Patagonia boycotts Outdoor Retailer show in support of Bears Ears...

other wrote:Many of the people outraged and screaming boycott Patagonia can't afford to buy Patagonia. I do think their stuff should be made in USA .

High end apparel is often made outside of the USA not (only) for cost reasons, but because the expertise and manufacturing capability for it barely exists here. Decades of progressively less cheap clothing being made in placed does eventually lead to expertise we just don't have here.

other wrote:Many of the people outraged and screaming boycott Patagonia can't afford to buy Patagonia. I do think their stuff should be made in USA .

Other than Altered Ego, I don't think there has been a single person in this thread wanting to boycott Patagonia. Now maybe in Utah the residents of San Juan county would probably lean towards boycott as it seems quite a few are against the national monument.

jgfox wrote: Other than Altered Ego, I don't think there has been a single person in this thread wanting to boycott Patagonia. Now maybe in Utah the residents of San Juan county would probably lean towards boycott as it seems quite a few are against the national monument.

They were just hoping to mine our land for their profit.

King Tut wrote: They were just hoping to mine our land for their profit.

That and some of the tribe members are upset that they don't have much control over the land. They want it protected but at least wanted to be a part of controlling it.

Tell the secretary of the interior that you support public lands

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eli poss wrote:Tell the secretary of the interior that you support public lands secure.everyaction.com/CTVj…

Done thanks... Access Fund also just put out an email with a way to easily submit your comments...

"we should take to the streets, disrupt commerce & refuse to pay our taxes. A revolution may be needed"

In theory, perhaps. It's a fantasy. We are the most comfortable, spoiled, status-quo society on the planet. (read: stable). 0% chance of a USA revolution against government. 0.

Russ Keane wrote:"we should take to the streets, disrupt commerce & refuse to pay our taxes. A revolution may be needed" In theory, perhaps. It's a fantasy. We are the most comfortable, spoiled, status-quo society on the planet. (read: stable). 0% chance of a USA revolution against government. 0.

Yea it worked so well for the Syrians

Russ Keane wrote:"we should take to the streets, disrupt commerce & refuse to pay our taxes. A revolution may be needed"

Who said that Russ? I don't see it in the thread. JB

s.price wrote:Mark Rolofson said it. Back on the last page.

Thanks Price, I love these threads.......;)

s.price wrote:I wonder if taking to the streets will prove to be more successful than occupying a wildlife refuge.

Just don't make a mess like the pipeline protestors did.

I wish I had never commented on this thread.

Patagonia Capeline is worth every penny. Havent owned a lot of other stuff.

I like my capiline layers as well, my favorite base layer is from marmot maybe 10 years ago, still is warm and breaths great.

Healthcare > iPhone

Russ Keane wrote:"we should take to the streets, disrupt commerce & refuse to pay our taxes. A revolution may be needed" In theory, perhaps. It's a fantasy. We are the most comfortable, spoiled, status-quo society on the planet. (read: stable). 0% chance of a USA revolution against government. 0.

It's a fantasy! Perhaps you should pull your head out of your ass, Russ, & watch the news. First, the Women's March on Jan. 22, 2017 was the largest protest in US history. The crowd in Washington DC was over 500,000. There was over 100,000 people marching in Denver, Colorado. There were Women's Marches all over the world that day.

Secondly, in response to Trump's Muslim Refugee Ban, there were massive protests at airports around the country that lasted for over a week. The police could have blocked the protesters but they didn't. Taxi drivers joined in, refusing to work in solidarity. Politicians & judges also went to airports to join in the protest & to help foreign visa & green holders who were detained & being deported. That protest worked & the Appeals Court ruled against the ban as unconstitutional & illegal.

Third, there have been large protests in front of immigrant detention centers. Fourth, there have been large protests for transgendered people.

Lastly on March 8th, there were huge protests for Women's Day. It was titled a "Day Without A Women" because many women went on strike & didn't go to work. Schools closed in several cities as a result. The Women's Day protests went on all over the world.

This is just the beginning of this corrupt fascist administration, that wants to rape the people & the planet. The protests have gone mainstream, with large cross sections of the citizenry participating. Many people were very complacent under Obama. The exceptions were Occupy Wallstreet, Black Lives Matter & the NO DAPL protests by indigenous people & their non-native allies. There is now a mass awakening & people are feeling very empowered. It is only a matter time before we become UNGOVERNABLE!

If Trump attempts to dismantle Bear Ears National Monument, there should be massive protests in Salt Lake City & throughout Utah, as well as Washington DC.

jgfox wrote: Just don't make a mess like the pipeline protestors did.

The camp by the Missouri River was cleaned up. What will make a real mess is when the Dakota Access Pipeline breaks spewing oil into the Missouri River that is drinking water for over 18 million people plus much wildlife & livestock. This has devastating potential.

Mark Rolofson wrote: The camp by the Missouri River was cleaned up. What will make a real mess is when the Dakota Access Pipeline breaks spewing oil into the Missouri River that is drinking water for over 18 million people plus much wildlife & livestock. This has devastating potential.

What do you feel is the better alternative to pipelines for oil transport?

Bill Kirby wrote: What do you feel is the better alternative to pipelines for oil transport?

The correct response would be "a pipeline" haha

But, how about no pipeline no oil. We should be building alternative energy farms not pipelines.

Tylerpratt wrote: The correct response would be "a pipeline" haha But, how about no pipeline no oil. We should be building alternative energy farms not pipelines.

I agree alternative energy is much cleaner and the future. There's not enough of that create the energy to satisfy needs in the immediate future. So how else should we transport crude?