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What makes "the Euros" better?

Benjamin Chapman · · Small Town, USA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 18,963

Ever hear of Chris Sharma, Daniel Woods, Alex Honnold, Tommy Caldwell, Kevin Jorgenson, or Paul Robinson. Doesn't seem that the Europeans are doing better then our elite climbers.

Cory B · · Fresno, CA · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 2,577
Benjamin Chapman wrote:Ever hear of Chris Sharma, Daniel Woods, Alex Honnold, Tommy Caldwell, Kevin Jorgenson, or Paul Robinson. Doesn't seem that the Europeans are doing better then our elite climbers.
I think OP was saying that the "everyday" climber in Europe is better than the everyday climber in the USA. Far more climbers there that can climb 5.13 off the couch.

Also, listing the top US climbers is not every helpful, our climbing media ignore the euro climbers, so there are as many bad-ass elite climbers in Europe as there are here, they are just not household names because of the media bias.
King Tut · · Citrus Heights · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 430

Get your head out of your inferiority complex and focus on being the best climber you can be.

When you realize your own climbing has very, very little to do with what others are doing you will be ready to take ownership of you own successes and failures.

You also need to accept that very, very few people are "Olympic Medalists" at their chosen sport yet in Climbing half of these fools think they could be Ondra if they just ate better and trained more.

This is a joke on the narcissists of climbing.

Following the same logic you too could set a world record in the 100 Meters like Usain Bolt. But the fact of the matter it is more likely impossible for your body to do 5.15...if you are capable of connecting the physical reality of the two sorts of achievements in that only certain genetic gifts allow those at the top to set new standards.

Ralf · · MA · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 0
Eric Engberg wrote:On Sunday afternoons tye typical Parisian goes to Bleau. The typical New Yorker sits on the coach watching football.
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michael sami · · providence · Joined Jul 2020 · Points: 0
Mike Slavens wrote:   Having the most fun may not make me the best climber, but I don't care. I'm having too much fun to care if I'm the best climber.

this right here is the right mentality, cause im new to climbing and i climb with people much better than me but i honestly dont care cause im having to much fun learning and climbing..i do follow a regiment though and try to train as hard as i can with my current work schedule..only a month in and im getting into the v5/v6s now..im 30 now but i wish i had gotten into this sport at much much younger age..i didnt even really look at climbing as a sport growing up, there wasnt much around of it when i was growing up, atleast that i was aware of and i grew up in new england and i feel like climbing for sport here is much more limited than in other areas of the US specially in the early 2000s..

Nick Arthur · · Northampton, MA · Joined May 2017 · Points: 86

I think there's just more places where sport climbing in particular is more of a "normal" sport. The more popular a sport is somewhere, the better people will be at it for the most part. 

Sport climbing was also more popular earlier on in eu if I recall correctly

Raz Bob · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 0

Socialism

Fan Y · · Bishop · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 878

They climb 5.14 and know it's not a big deal and don't spray about it or seek shoe sponsors because of it. 

Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110

Fan you only think that cause you don't follow any of them on insta ;)

Gumby boy king · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2019 · Points: 547
Forthright wrote:

Fan you only think that cause you don't follow any of them on insta ;)

Are you stalking him on insta!?!?! 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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