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Blue Water Icon 9.1??????

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Dan Cooksey · · Pink Ford Thunderbird · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 365

I won one of these in a raffle last night. 70m double dry coat. I am a little apprehensive of using such a thin rope.

Anyone have or used one?

Best applications?

Pros and cons?

Trying to decide wether to keep it, sell it, or trade it.

Thanks.

B Gilmore · · AZ · Joined Nov 2005 · Points: 1,260

I climb with the 9.1 Icon all the time. Blue Water made this rope to be durable, and it has far outlasted the other 9ish mil ropes I've used. Maybe not the best if you're setting lots of TR's for your friends, otherwise it's an amazing cord.

Luke Bertelsen · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Feb 2005 · Points: 4,867

Thin is the way to go. You will never go back to above 10mm!

Dan Cooksey · · Pink Ford Thunderbird · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 365

Thanks for the info. Ill keep my 10mm for long cragging days with friends but looks like ill keep the 9.1 for multi pitch and long hard sport routes.

Matt Himmelstein · · Orange, CA · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 194

I have a 9.2 70m, and I love it. It feeds great, is light for approaches and at the end of a linked multi-pitch, and I have no problem catching on it. My partner hates it (just for psych reasons), but he's climbed on it as well.

Tradgic Yogurt · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2016 · Points: 55

80m of the Icon has been pretty awesome. Nice and light even at that length, feeds really well through Megajul, no worries about falls so far.

Royal · · Santa Rosa, CA · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 410

I'm not terribly happy with my Wave, it's a slightly thicker Icon. My partner core shot it within a few weeks either falling or from grinding into the edge of an offwidth in Zion. I'm guessing the second. I think it's too stiff.

Pavel Burov · · Russia · Joined May 2013 · Points: 50

I have owned the same rope. It is nice climbing rope. Durable.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

Got a 70M bicolor Icon and have been loving it for multipitch rock and ice. Bluewater Icon and Wave have a thicker sheath than most ropes its diameter which gives it durability.

DWF 3 · · Boulder, CO · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 186

I'll give you 150 bucks plus shipping for the rope you won.

Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

I Have had about 3 of them. they are stiff but durable lines. I Have 2 60m's and a 80m 9.1 Icon. my first one was very stiff. my last, 60M and the 80M have stayed very supple. I get them cheap that seals it for me.

@ Royal,

Where did your line get coreshot? just about any rope will get core shot if you tie it close and tight to your harness in a squeeze or OW. I thread about 3ft of webbing down the rope when I am doing a hard tight squeeze, and leave the knot loop longer.

Royal · · Santa Rosa, CA · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 410
Rob Warden, Space Lizard wrote:I Have had about 3 of them. they are stiff but durable lines. I Have 2 60m's and a 80m 9.1 Icon. my first one was very stiff. my last, 60M and the 80M have stayed very supple. I get them cheap that seals it for me. @ Royal, Where did your line get coreshot? just about any rope will get core shot if you tie it close and tight to your harness in a squeeze or OW. I thread about 3ft of webbing down the rope when I am doing a hard tight squeeze, and leave the knot loop longer.
Near the end. Yes, that's what I expect happened. That's a really clever trick! So, you open up the tubular webbing and thread it over your rope's sheath, right? Would you post a picture of how this looks?
Yer Gonna Die · · Cragville · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 175

feel free to send it my way

Forthright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 110

YER GUNNA DIE

Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130

@ royal, yes exactly open 1 inch tube webbing and thread it down the full length of the tie in.

rkrum · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 61

I am psyched to try the webbing tie in method. Tying the knot long only does so much, like you say.

I recently coreshot my brand new 80m 9.0 on the first ever lead with it, even with a long knot. Happened right at my tie in point at my harness, which would have been avoided with webbing.

Thanks!

Howard · · Costa Mesa, CA · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 2,695

I've used my Icon for about a year on a lot of multipitches and it's holding up well despite the frequency of use at J Tree with its coarse rock and the number of times I've had a follower needing me to haul them up a low angle route. I'd heard good things before I got it so when I found a good deal I made sure to snag it. Still into it. Just be mindful to ensure your belay device is recommended for it.

Rob WardenSpaceLizard · · las Vegans, the cosmic void · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 130
courthouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 175

9.1 icon is the single rated double, for the alpine badass. PS. single rated doubles will save your ass in the alpine, when things go bad.(notice how I said when, not if) :0

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346

I use my 9.1 Icon for sport climbs. I've whiped on it tons and it's holding up well. It is a somewhat stiff rope (I've see stiffer), but by design.

"The Icon has a 35% sheath mass with a tight braid so the rope does not become floppy and has less drag which means less abrasion from running across rock. "


bluewaterropes.com/product/…

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

You won a great rope- thank the donor/sponsor and use the rope for whatever you like to climb, other than hangdogging TR climbers below a big roof (will kill any rope fast).

My Icons have done well on anything from Eldo to the Tetons... BW does apparently know how to make a 9.1-9.4mm rope well.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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