second set of ice tools
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Looking for a second set of ice tools. Right now I have a set of quarks )new style) which work well for just about everything. The wife has been starting to follow me on some multi pitch stuff and borrowing a second set of tools for her is a bit of a pain. |
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I was in a similar boat and picked up a pair of Cassin X-Dreams in addition to a pair of Quarks. |
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I suspect that if you have the chance to climb with Trango Raptors, you'll buy a pair. They're THAT good. |
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I just bought a 2nd pair myself. Having the quarks first, I decided to get a set of nomics so that I could share picks and other head accessories between them. |
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check te tread about the tech machine... prob all the info you want |
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or save some time and just get some x dreams |
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+1 Trango Raptors |
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What other types of ice do you do? The Quarks are great all round tools so you are covered there. If you are really going to go more into the vert I would say look at the Nomics as the picks for the Quarks are the same. I have multiple sets BD tools but all of my picks are interchangeable with them. So it cuts down on the picks, heads, adzes, etc. needed. |
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Nomics will definitely give you the added benefit of sharing parts with the quarks. In addition to being fantastic tools as well. |
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In terms of other ice I occasionally get on alpine ice. If my wife goes we usually take a quark and |
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Ended up doing the nomics since i can share picks and other accessories. |
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Argh.. First Quarks then Nomics? That sounds like getting kicked in the balls, picking yourself off the floor and saying "Sir! Can I please have other!?!" Be sure to google detuning Petzl picks. |
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wfscot wrote: It's awesome to have variety. Whether you go with the Nomics, X-Dreams, some crazy Grivel something, etc. is largely a matter of preference and what you want to go after. I highly recommend getting something different, though. IMO, the Cobras are not sufficiently different from the Quarks to justify the purchase.This is the only answer you need to read in the thread. Everyone likes what they like. Pick a tool that expands what you can do. |
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wisam wrote:Ended up doing the nomics since i can share picks and other accessories.now sell the Quark , you are probably just gonna stop using them.... and next year sell the Nomics too and get some xdreams , the cycle will be completed ! you will understand in time my friend ! |
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Lot of fans of the x dreams! Got a friend who just picked up a |
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wisam wrote:Lot of fans of the x dreams! Got a friend who just picked up a Set. I'll have to borrow his some time soon to try then for myself.definitely gonna make you climb 2 grades harder ! |
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Theriault wrote: definitely gonna make you climb 2 grades harder !Just like ultra light cams and biners will make you send harder rock grades by 3 numbers. |
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NorCalNomad Blank wrote: Just like ultra light cams and biners will make you send harder rock grades by 3 numbers.exactly !!!! |
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I have a set of Nomics and X-dreams...so comparing them: The Nomics climb WI2/3 better than the X-dreams. The X-dreams feel like you have to swing down not in, because of how aggressive the tool is. I notice it most on rolling WI3 terrain. Not that it won't work but the Nomic is just better in that terrain. I only lead WI4 and I can't really tell too much difference between the tools on that grade. The Nomic has a weighted head which makes it heavier. TR'ing WI5 seems to be a wash between the tools for me. Where the X-dream shines is on mixed terrain. I have done a fair amount of drytooling (mostly to train for ice) and the X-dream is just way better than the Nomic. I like the angle better, it is lighter, and the handles feel more comfortable for long periods. |