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How will a Trump presidency affect climbers
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This thread is AWESOME! |
Buff Johnson wrote:Not even 12 hrs in, and the liberal whining and bitching has begun.Had Hillary won, I suppose the Republicans would have just taken it calmly in stride, huh? |
Buff Johnson wrote:Not even 12 hrs in, and the liberal whining and bitching has begun.Much like the past 8 years....oh wait that was the republicans. |
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Re: selling off public lands or changing their use rights- who knows, but all the more reason to stay/become involved with the organizations that work to protect those lands. Hopefully awareness and coordinated opposition to selling public lands will be enough... |
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The future can be difficult to predict indeed, unless of course, you watch The Simpsons: |
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educate yourselves: |
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Climbing out of country may change... |
Trevor wrote:educate yourselves: congress.gov/bill/114th-con…What i see is transferring of federal lands to state interests for oil and gas mining exploration with a few concessions mixed in to placate folks who would object. Think Rio Tinto... huge support from John McCain whis is the tranferrance of fed land to foreign corporate interests in exchange for protecting some other less worthy property. That's what my educated mind gets outta that so hopefully that was your point... Just take this troubling statement... so UT will become sole authority of fed land within it's state boundaries? "Utah may establish a program covering the permitting processes, regulatory requirements, and any other provisions by which it would exercise its rights to develop and permit all forms of energy resources on certain available federal land." |
Morgan Patterson wrote: What i see is transferring of federal lands to state interests for oil and gas mining exploration with a few concessions mixed in to placate folks who would object. Think Rio Tinto... huge support from John McCain whis is the tranferrance of fed land to foreign corporate interests in exchange for protecting some other less worthy property. That's what my educated mind gets outta that...Maybe that was Trevor's point? From a land conservation point of view the PLI is pretty disastrous. |
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And THAT is why the bears ears natl monument is being fought for! Protect this land from resource extraction, keep climbing in Indian Creek, and do your research! |
Jimmy Sledd wrote:Surely many of you have read the Monkey Wrench Gang. One of my favorite campsites (and one of Doc Sarvis' as well) is on Comb Ridge, just outside Bluff, Utah. It was public land, owned by the state. Last month, Utah sold the parcel of land to the highest bidder. Is a Trump administration going to sell off Yosemite? No. But there are many people who would like to cut taxes drastically and make up the deficit by selling off BLM or USFS land. After all, it's just sagebrush and pine trees, right?Gary Johnson wanted to sell off the BLM checkerboards to do the same thing |
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This is hardly encouraging: |
coolHandBuke wrote:I think one needs to look no further than the Antiquities Act established in 1906Or how about the "Act of 1871"? youtube.com/watch?v=taP5XSf… |
coolHandBuke wrote: very true :( $$$By the way, a person's name is shown in all caps on legal documents - including your birth certificate. Hmmm............................. |
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Travel outside the USA will become a nightmare of special permission/ visa´s etc once Trump´s insulted all the rest of the worlds leaders. |
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Yeah, Hellary would've been way better. She was soooo ready to be our prez: |
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gop.com/platform/americas-n…
"The federal government owns or controls over 640 million acres of land in the United States, most of which is in the West. These are public lands, and the public should have access to them for appropriate activities like hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting. Federal ownership or management of land also places an economic burden on counties and local communities in terms of lost revenue to pay for things such as schools, police, and emergency services. It is absurd to think that all that acreage must remain under the absentee ownership or management of official Washington. Congress shall immediately pass universal legislation providing for a timely and orderly mechanism requiring the federal government to convey certain federally controlled public lands to states. We call upon all national and state leaders and representatives to exert their utmost power and influence to urge the transfer of those lands, identified in the review process, to all willing states for the benefit of the states and the nation as a whole. The residents of state and local communities know best how to protect the land where they work and live. They practice boots-on-the-ground conservation in their states every day. We support amending the Antiquities Act of 1906 to establish Congress’ right to approve the designation of national monuments and to further require the approval of the state where a national monument is designated or a national park is proposed." |
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Trump being president will effect video-photo guys in climbing quite well. |
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I demand a long form birth certificate. Clearly he is an Orange! |
Cor wrote:On another note, how many single male climbers are going to purchase the latest edition of Hustler magazine? It's the first lady edition. Collectors item!Will pre-pregger Ivanka be in it as well? |
