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Rock Climbing Photo: Wasp nest on Family Jewel, as of 3 Aug 2016.
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By George Hayduke
Aug 6, 2016
Hey, I wrote the date on there. Ill make you a deal you find and carry the "large rock" to the base and Ill write the warning on that. Until then enjoy the climbing and the heads up.
By Sean
From: Oak Park, CA
Aug 6, 2016
large skeleton cartoon unnecessary. "WASP" and "2 Aug" would suffice; many rocks right there large enough for that
By George Hayduke
Aug 9, 2016
First of all I didnt draw the "skeleton Cartoon" (aka Skull and Crossbones) I said I wrote the date. However, I disagree w you on every point. A) an argument can be made that the universal sign for danger is a skull and crossbones does not require a command of the english language thereby warning climbers who don't speak english .B) its written in chalk, not permanent marker, C) its at the base of a sport climb not on a monument in a national park, D) People can be allergic to WASPS and getting a heads up it about it could prove to be vital to someones survival. Your comments seem to be really nitpicky as you are literally taking issue with things that really don't make a difference. Seems like you are just trying to rack up points on MP... Why didn't you carry a large rock to the base and then use your water to clean off the eyesore? and then rewrite it? Also, did you lower off the route or rap?
By Sean
From: Oak Park, CA
Aug 9, 2016
Leave No Trace isn't that difficult a concept to grasp, or to at least make an effort to minimize the impact. as pointed out and which you still don't get, not that large a rock is needed to leave a reasonable warning with just "WASP" and "2 AUG", instd of a gigantic graffiti-like one with supersized letterings that you and others together left on the rock wall. one of the big flat rocks from the pile behind the base tree would do just fine. and if you really just gotta gotta have a skull & crossbones drawing to warn the rare non-english speakers who btw wouldn't understand the meaning of "AUG" anyway, then just use another rock and put that next to the other at the base. it's that simple, not hard at all, and without having to scribble in chalk all over the wall. i led and was lowered off of our own anchoring draws. i do both rap and lower as the situ dictates at Malibu Creek, and have contributed hardware for the anchors too. i can care less about MP pts. but maybe this will prompt others to, unlike you, give more thought and consideration about how best to leave "warnings" without needing to write all over the wall

the one suggestion to next time put warnings on rocks leaned against the wall isn't that big of an affront. a practice that would only help minimize impact. you're the one who still couldn't see how that could've been done afterall. there's really no need to rage against it like you do. calm down, and try to understand more fully
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Wasp nest on Family Jewel, as of 3 Aug 2016.

Submitted By: Sean on Aug 3, 2016
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