Pooping at the Crag

Looking for some advice here. I always seem to get nervous before a hard lead. I obviously carry tp because of this and seem to use it on a regular basis at the crag. Recently a few of my climbing partners have given me crap for taking a dump at the crag. I don't see anything wrong with this and feel that as long as I poop 50 feet or more from the cliff line than it's ok. My argument is that I'm part of nature also. I always try to hide it. I like boulder outcropping and little caves the best to do my business. Do you guys see anything wrong with this? My saying is lighten the load, baby and crush the rigatoni.

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Depends on if you're packing out the TP or carrying this habit to the desert...

I think the rule is, if you're going to poop, bring a bucket, poop in there, and carry it out. One person pooping might not be a big deal if they hide it super well, but once one person does it, more will, and if everybody is pooping around the place then it becomes a sewer and not a crag.

Sounds like you aren't burying it, which is a big no-no.

Basic instructions for leave-no-trace pooping.

Even LNT style pooping can become a problem in high traffic areas. Pick up some of these.

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Normally I would say a cat hole is great but if this is a habit for you, packing it out may be the way to go. You can make a leak proof poop vault for your wag bag with some large threaded pvc pipe.

Many birds poop before they take off to lighten the load. Never chase a flock of pigeons towards a wall, you will be sorry.

Bryan Manning wrote:1/10

Ryan Valentine wrote: That's being generous

Pack it out or stay in the gym please.

He had me for the first few sentences.

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Depends....

The reason people give you crap for it is because you, like me, live no more than 10 minutes from wall in Fayetteville. Yeah sometimes the good old brown snake likes to show his head at the most inopportune times, but for the most part use your own toilet. If you can't carry it out then bury it, don't just put a rock on top of it. Never use the bathrooms in caves.

Something about using toilet paper...even if you bury it, animals will dig it up. Most of the time there is little difference between littering and burying your TP.

aaron hope wrote:Something about using toilet paper...even if you bury it, animals will dig it up. Most of the time there is little difference between littering and burying your TP.

Rick Blair wrote: Pee on it and stir it into the dirt with your poo, start the break down. Having this conversation is like listening to my kids crack jokes.

Be a responsible adult and sh*t before you go climb, or do it at camp, or hold it for godssake. DO NOT sh*t near your climbig area, 50 ft is not enough, the smell does and will travel.

1. You don't need toilet paper. My wife learned how to use sticks on Outward Bound. (You wipe/roll with the side, not the point of the stick.) I actually prefer it to TP.

2. 50 feet is not far enough. Go take a bushwack stroll, away from the cliff and hiking trails.

3. If you're not burying it that's F'd up. No one wants to see or step in your turd when they're scouting for a place to drop their own.

4. If you're someplace where it rains a lot, its probably fine to leave the deuce and pack out the TP (if you must). If you're in the desert you really shouldn't be leaving anything.

Groover

Holy shit, I just learned a lot!! Thanks for posting OP, I've just been shitting on crag dogs this whole time....whilst jamming my "nipple".