CAM-EXTRACTOR
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New product from Sonoran Climbing Gear... Stop losing cams, retrieve lost cams and extend your reach! The Cam-Extractor is made out of aircraft grade aluminum, stainless steel tubing and high carbon piano wire. It comes in two different lengths, 30" and 18" and is proudly made in the USA. Check out our website sonoranclimbinggear.com or find us on Facebook. |
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You forgot to list one feature: |
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Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger. |
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I can't wait to see the comments on this one! |
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I can't wait for a stick clip that holds a cam. |
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One of my buddies built a VERY similar product a few months back, with some basic hardware store materials. I don't think it had a trigger, but adjustable "trigger puller" secured by wing nuts or something. Anyway, I know he bootied a few deep, stuck cams with it but I'd venture to say he spent far less than $50 on the materials, probably less than $25-30. |
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Nice, created a MP account today just for free marketing. |
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This ^ lolol. I'm glad someone checked. |
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Looks like another great item to bring along....... With a couple of PASs, a laminated copy of FOTH, three cordalettes, a trigger kit, a large tube of sunscreen, camera, ten lockers, just in case..... |
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Looks nice, but it's no Booty Clapper. |
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that #2 is a little undercammed there |
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I would not bring that along just for the prospect of collecting a piece of out of reach gear. Nice cam stick clip though for working on a project maybe. |
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ethlogo wrote:Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger. I bet it would also cost significantly less than $110. Might not look as snazzy. Or as silly. Could probably be made from a coat hanger.Without the trigger you're loading the cam while trying to retract the lobes. It might be possible to remove it that way but it will be substantially harder. It's important to have a method to retract the lobes before actually pulling on the cam itself. |
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Ray Pinpillage |
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yeah, I didn't want to be the first to bash it, but i've always used 2 nuts, sling the cables around the trigger and pull. I think the only piece I've ever lost was a small offset nut. I placed it while aiding in the morning as the sun hit the wall, my second couldn't get it out, neither could I. I'm fairly certain that it got stuck because as the sun warmed the rock up, it expanded, squeezing the nut. I'm fairly certain this same action would make a cam irretrievable, until it cools off of course. |
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ethlogo wrote:Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger. I bet it would also cost significantly less than $110. Might not look as snazzy. Or as silly. Could probably be made from a coat hanger.I'm pretty sure you're wrong. It's not very clear, but if you look closely you can see that the orange block near the end butts up against the end of the cam and the hooks grab the trigger. Some of the photos on their website show this better. It looks like there is a groove in there, which probably works well for C4's but who knows about other cam designs. At $110 I don't think this is going to sell very well. |
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At $110, the cam extractor would have to save me from losing 2 cams. Considering I've never lost a cam in 10 years of climbing, I think the return on investment here would be pretty slim. |
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Ray Pinpillage wrote:I can't wait for a stick clip that holds a cam.Epic stick clip's do. Quite nicely. |
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Vaughne wrote: I'm pretty sure you're wrong. It's not very clear, but if you look closely you can see that the orange block near the end butts up against the end of the cam and the hooks grab the trigger. Some of the photos on their website show this better. It looks like there is a groove in there, which probably works well for C4's but who knows about other cam designs. At $110 I don't think this is going to sell very well.My (very) simple interpretation: Given a coefficient of friction of ~.4, cam holding force ranges from 1.35-1.7 pull force. The pull force on the spring is roughly equal to the retraction force on the cams themselves. Which leaves the cam holding force at .35-.7 pull force, and the pull force is still at 1. Cam pops out. I'm sure I've messed up everywhere, I thought about springs in a damned long time. I think someone should just go outside, place a cam, then try to pull it out by the trigger. I'm really not sure what would happen. But I think it would come out. |
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The ultimate IC Booty tool? |
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ethlogo wrote: My (very) simple interpretation: Given a coefficient of friction of ~.4, cam holding force ranges from 1.35-1.7 pull force. The pull force on the spring is roughly equal to the retraction force on the cams themselves. Which leaves the cam holding force at .35-.7 pull force, and the pull force is still at 1. Cam pops out. I'm sure I've messed up everywhere, I thought about springs in a damned long time. I think someone should just go outside, place a cam, then try to pull it out by the trigger. I'm really not sure what would happen. But I think it would come out.you're wrong pulling the trigger only cams the unit into place... go trad climbing and you should be able to figure it out. This is basic. |