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Lightweight, Compressible Wind-shirts?

Derek W · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 20

Oh, and I think the higher breathability/venting is important because I do sweat a lot and put off a lot of heat, so I don't want to be soaked on the inside

mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,885
Wehling wrote:Matt, wow, thanks man, that's great info! Now I'm not sure which direction to go, ultralight windshirt or lined windshirt. I'm really warm blooded and it has to be pretty chilly or have a chilly wind for me to put on another layer. I wonder if the Ultralight is so thin that it would stop the wind, but not the cold that comes with it. However, do you think a Lined one would be too bulky to carry on a pure-rock alpine climb without carrying a backpack (which I may be carrying anyway)? Thanks for all the info guys, very helpful. Cheers, Derek
I find the LINED Windshirt is better when you have larger temp swings in Early Spring and Late Fall where the shade is is too cold to stand still in. The ultralight windshirt comes into it's own when the WIND is what is making you cold, rather than pure air temps. You mention ALPINE rock climbs which I assume means some elevation. I'd go with a lined windshirt in those cases. I use my ultralight on lower elevation multi-pitch.

My Pata Alpine Windshirt and Marmot Driclime (Both LINED) stuff into the chest pocket and have a harness clip in loop. About the size of a grapefruit I'd guess.

My Ultra light windshirts (Houdini, ION, Camp thingy etc) pack up smaller. Maybe softball size or smaller? I can stuff my ultralights in a thigh pocket on my climbing pants without issue keeping the cluster f__k to a minimum.
Will S · · Joshua Tree · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 1,061

I should have been clear that I'm seeking an ultralight, unlined in the 3-6oz range.

Some of the products mentioned aren't made anymore.GoLite Wisp that Mike mentioned was my first choice, no longer made and the replacement model has a much longer zipper. Wild Things isn't selling ANY consumer gear right now. Breathability isn't a factor for me, this would be mostly hanging at belays or occasionally climbing rock pitches, not wearing during an alpine route/snow slog/highly aerobic stuff.

I like the sale price on the Camp anorak, but not the large chest pocket design.

The TNF Verto, Marmot Trail Wind, Arcteryx Squamish...those sort of things are what I'm after. Would be really nice if they are hooded that there is a piece of velcro or some way to roll/stash the hood so it's not always out/open and flapping around if I'm not wearing it.

Jason Killgore · · boulder, co · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 165

Another option is an unlined soft shell windshirt:

I'm sure there are others, but I own/owned these two. Heavier than the coated nylon shirts, but more breathable, durable, and warmer. The rab still stuffs into its chest pocket and has a clip loop. There may be other options in this class as well.

splitterchoss.com/2011/02/1…

or

outdoorresearch.com/site/ci…

bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065

will ...

get whatever is cheap and on sale ... dont spend $$$$$$$

itll get worn out in about a year or so anyways if you climb the occasional hand crack in it ...

my trail wind is new and im already patching it up

doligo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 269

Patagonia Houdini - worth every penny. Stuffs into itself, has a harness loop, superlight, but warm and despite looking and feeling like paper is pretty darn tough.

Nate Reno · · Highlands Ranch, CO · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 156

I had a NF Verto and Pat Houdini
Ended up keeping the Houdini because the Verto just looked a little too thin.
Ended up climbing Bastille W Butt, where theres a short o/w section behind the flake. My 1st time in any o/w (sloppy), thought I might punch a hole or small rip in it, but it came out w/o a scratch. Wouldn't want to do anything long like that w/ it though.
The hood is pretty tight w/ a helmet on underneath, I found it easier to put the hood on under the helmet - that's about my only minor gripe w/ it so far.

Tyler Wick · · Bishop, CA · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 200

I don't think you will find anything in your weight range with a stowable hood. Checking out the 3-6 oz wind jackets, they have been completely feature stripped to achieve these weights.

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485

My old Marmot Ion stashes the hood (rolls up and snaps) but if the new ones don't have that feature, 15 min with needle, thread and scrap of fabric could add it.

Will S · · Joshua Tree · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 1,061

Oooh....ahhh. Check out the Montbell Tachyon...stowable hood, shorty half-zipper anorak style, only 2.2oz! Tyler, you thought WRONG my friend, lol. Anyone have one of these to comment?

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

Get back to me after you've gone up an off-width in that.

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485
Ray Pinpillage wrote:Get back to me after you've gone up an off-width in that.
They're obviously not for offwidths Ray.

The zipper looks a little short on the montbell for real venting. I'd prefer a much deeper one or a full zip but that would make it closer to 3oz (gasp, haha).
Eric D · · Gnarnia · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 235

I have had the Marmot Windshirt since 2001 and it is by far the best piece of climbing clothing I have ever owned. A few things that make it awesome:

1. A wide temperature range - It has a light lining and I just zip it all the way up when it is cold. When it is hot it has a full-length zipper so I can zip it completely open. I can also push the sleeves up past my elbows. This is my go-to layer when I don't know what to expect.
2. Very compressible. The light lining reduces compressibility by a little bit but it's worth it. The lining also makes it comfortable to wear with nothing beneath which I do often.
3. I can't believe it has lasted so long considering the abuse it has taken. It has atleast 3 years left too.
4. It's long so I can tuck it into my pants which I like for warmth and for not having gear and other stuff on my harness get caught on it.

My only complaint is that the neck is too loose but not a big deal I suppose.

Derek W · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 20
Eric D wrote:I have had the Marmot Windshirt since 2001 and it is by far the best piece of climbing clothing I have ever owned.
How would you compare it to the Marmot Ether DriClime ? It seems the weigh the same amount as the new Marmot DriClime Windshirt but the Ether has a hood...
Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

One of these:

outdoorresearch.com/site/ci…

Or one of these:

outdoorresearch.com/site/m_…

I've climbed alpine and off-widths in the them. Not the lightest weight but tough as nails, water resistant, and breathable...lifetime warranty too. I wouldn't even look twice at a 2oz shirt, of any kind.

Tyler Wick · · Bishop, CA · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 200
Will S wrote:Oooh....ahhh. Check out the Montbell Tachyon...stowable hood, shorty half-zipper anorak style, only 2.2oz! Tyler, you thought WRONG my friend, lol. Anyone have one of these to comment?
I was only considering full zip models when I was looking :(
Allen Hill · · FIve Points, Colorado and Pine · Joined Jun 2004 · Points: 1,410

I've gone through a couple of the Sierra Designs wind anoraks. Before that REI made one just like it and I went through a couple of them. Cheap and fragile but a easy duct tape fix no matter where you find yourself. Go cheap on a wind shirt.

Pavel K · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 211

Pata Houdini. One of the best pieces of clothing I have ever owned. Have been using mine for five years in all four seasons and it is still holding up (with tape added...). Would buy another one in a heartbeat. I love the full length zip and the hood.

dourbalistar · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 35
Greg Carlisle wrote:I am also in the market and have been looking at the First Ascent sirocco windshell....its pretty light and the price is nice at 50 bucks...anyone have any experience?
I bought one of these recently with the 30% off promo during EB's anniversary sale for <$40 including CA sales tax. Haven't had enough time to field test the jacket much, but the fabric has a nice, soft feel. At 5'8" and around 150lbs, I'm a small in most brands, and the fit is true to size.

Although I'd been eyeing the Patagucci Houdini, I couldn't pass up <$40 for what seems to be a very similar jacket. I also like that it has two side hand pockets, something the Houdini lacks.
Devin Krevetski · · Northfield, VT · Joined May 2008 · Points: 140

patagonia houdini + r1 hoody has to be the most functional combo of outdoor clothing that I have every owned.

I would suggest this instead of a driclime.

dev

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