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A note to newbies

Scott Grover · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 0
Brent Apgar wrote: Awesome reference... +1 But there's an idea, all noobs should have to wear bowl cuts until they've completed their entrance exam into the world of climbing. I'm thinking a list of routes compiled by the old crusty climbers here on MP that each noobie must lead.
That's the first thing I do when i bring new climbers out!
Rob Baumgartner · · Niwot · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 196

Superior, it's said, never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early!

Colin Parker · · Idyllwild, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 2,370
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Ed…

For anyone who wants to see how bad-ass the great lakes can get. Waves over 30'!
Mike Robinson · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,011
germsauce wrote:I hate newbies. So glad I never was one.
Yep...especially in The World of Warcraft
Mike Robinson · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,011
youtube.com/watch?v=pL4edgL…

Was it this Family? As climbers, Trad at least, we gotta do what we gotta do to afford a rack. When I first started I went bowl cut for nearly a year to buy my rack. As an Orphan you surely understand what it is like. Or maybe it wasn't a harness...it may have been his anti gravity belt which means he probably went "bowl cut" for much more than a year. We all could learn a thing or two about commitment from this fellow.
Mike Robinson · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 8,011
Petz Pretz wrote: Let's be honest and drop the sarcastic melowdrama 'little homie'... (ya, you're as much my little homie as I am your "dearest") Prolly if you read it again more slowly, it MIGHT 'click' for ya, but since you're about 12, I'll explain it to you: People with an enormous amount of climbing knowledge and experience that have a superior grasp on climbing and how to approach it with safety AND style are sitting wherever they sit, in front of their screens and tapping out a lot of "fucking lip and bullshit" (i.e. talk). It's ironic that the tone/manner is extremely condescending toward some old guy who can't possibly be holding himself to the same standards of style as the "badass" climbers spittin' game back and forth as if they were in some high-schoolish competition with each other for best burn (hs purview = some subtle social bullshit you'll figure out after you graduate someday). But hey, don't sweat it too much...we're all learning. For example, there was a time I would've called you fuckin' gay as fuck, till I hopped on the clue bus and realized that using a colloquial expression that degrades another person/group (based on sexual orientation, physical ability, or any other bullshit reason) isn't gay, rather it's simply LAME AS FUCK. I can't tell which comp is more important to you...to look better than the old climber or better than others making asinine comments about him. BTW, He's using the chest harness so he doesn't hurt himself cause he's way out of shape...so now that I think about it, I take it back: He actually IS more self aware than you are...just on a different plane is all (i.e. not the style plane that cool guys that type hard like you are on) It's like you're in a competition with him (ironic, huh?) Think about it, there's prolly not a single climber anyone truly looks up to (insert you're favorite climber's name here) spouting bullshit in here at that guy, cause the ones we admire aren't in here throwing him around like that. They don't have something to prove...least not in here, with him. Ok maybe it's not 'bullshit' because he is dorky in your eyes...but hey, props to the ol'geez for getting off the fucking couch. Even though he baited the hook, the whole thread ignores Guideline #1. So ya, fuck off.
Agree on your dislike of the elitist Tude,
I got tons of that when I started all from people that don't climb that hard anyways...High School for sure (but tons of room for side jokes) In the end, any who observe this kind of thing goin on should help the dude out in a "welcome to climbing, your one of us now" sort of way. Then spay to the ladies later on at the local bar about how much of a hero you are...not how much of a dumb ass the "newbie" is, and stuff.
Finn The Human · · The Land of Ooo · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 106
Mike C. Robinson wrote: ...Then spay to the ladies...
Spay, huh?

Hank Caylor · · Livin' in the Junk! · Joined Dec 2003 · Points: 643
Baumer wrote:Superior, it's said, never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early!
rad!
Woodchuck ATC · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 3,280
Colin Parker wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald#Final_voyage_and_wreck For anyone who wants to see how bad-ass the great lakes can get. Waves over 30'!
Now in surfing terms, just how was that wave height measured? They do it different on west coast compared to Hawaii. I forget who does what, but some measure height from depth of trough to top of crest. Others just measure the amplitude of wave from still water mid point to the crest. But when you're rippin' down the face of that wave from crest to trough on a surfboard or in a boat, you sure can go ahead and call it a 30 footer if you please.
Zac Snelling · · Breckenridge, CO · Joined May 2010 · Points: 30

I've spent a large amount of time on the ocean (Pacific, Atlantic, and gulf) and the Great Lakes (mostly Michigan and Superior) and I can safely say that by far the most intimidating storm I've seen was on Lake Superior in late November. Massive waves, crazy wind, lightning that made the night look like day, and it was cold as hell. I watched a show on Nat Geo that speculated that the Edmund Fitzgerald had its hatch covers blown off by a 100'+ rogue wave.

The anniversary of the Edmund Fitzgerald was only two days ago. So in their honor and to keep this thread veering off topic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U219P_zs7w

matt davies · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 25

"With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty."

That has always blown my mind, feeble as it is.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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