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Rock Climbing Photo: looking down on Predator :) Lily
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By M Sprague
Administrator
From: New England
Oct 19, 2011
No wonder it felt so steep up there!

Lee, somebody has to get you a better camera so you can post up clearer, bigger versions. You definitely have an eye for shots.
By S. Neoh
Oct 19, 2011
I think Lily's shoes look out of focus because of high zoom (shallow depth of field), not poor camera. Her face and arm (don't take this gun into town!) look sharp whch is the subject I believe Lee wants the viewer to focus on.
What ISO did you shoot at, Lee? And does the lense have Image Stabilization?
BTW, this is my fave in the series. Nice work.
By lee hansche
Administrator
From: goffstown, nh
Oct 19, 2011
mark, hahaha thanks... i guess... the set up i was shooting with is about $1200... i think what i needed was more light to work with... s.noah was right on that i was shooting with a low F-stop and a high zoom also with VERY little light i was on a very high ISO these things combined made it possible to get shots at all but strain the images i was still only able to get a shutter speed of a 60th of a second... yes they could be better but im happy with them under those conditions...
By lee hansche
Administrator
From: goffstown, nh
Oct 19, 2011
oh and thanks S.Noah, glad you like it... i think it was 800 ISO and yes the lens has image stabilizer but i often dont use it as i have very steady hands... the slight blur on the feet might be from movement too since it was a slow shutter speed...
By M Sprague
Administrator
From: New England
Oct 19, 2011
Yeah, the low light would account for the slight blurryness, i.e. slower shutter speed etc. I do like the shallow depth of focus blurring out the back ground some and focusing on the face. I like when you can see the emotions of the climber. The emotional reaction with the climb gives a lot more depth than just a simple action or scenic shot.

Sorry if the above sounded like a dissing of your camera. It is a lot better than my digital one that puts a purple haze on edges :( I thought perhaps you were posting smaller versions of your pics to keep the quality up. It would be nice to see bigger versions of some. When I don't have an overview of Green's as my background, I rotate pictures of local climbs to keep me psyched when I'm not able to actually get out to them. I got so bored with Rumney after going there so long almost exclusively, but some of your shots make me want to dive back into it.
By lee hansche
Administrator
From: goffstown, nh
Oct 19, 2011
thanks mark, happy to inspire... thats why i take them... i dont post high quality large images for a few reasons, one is that if every a Mag wanted to use one of my photos they would have to ask for the large image and another is that i fit the images to my screen (which is small)... i always have full sized images around though...

i wasnt really offended by your comment (i could tell that any diss was unintentional) i was more just under the impression you didnt understand photography which photographers run in to a lot... i will keep the images coming and i might even bring my better lens at some point get some real crisp stuff!
By Jay Knower
Administrator
From: Campton, NH
Oct 19, 2011
lee hansche wrote:
the set up i was shooting with is about $1200...


Yeah, if only Lee was shooting with a $1300 camera, then we'd get really really great photos.
By S. Neoh
Oct 19, 2011
Lee, thanks for the info you have provided. I have to say very good color saturation at ISO 800. I was guessing 400. Given the limited resolution of the posted image, it is hard to tell the level of noise or loss of fine-edge sharpness but my guess is not too bad. And, last but not least, you probably have hands steady enough to be a neuro surgeon if the shutter down at 1/60th with that high of a zoom, with no IS. Let me guess - about 400mm focal length (35mm eqv)?
By M Sprague
Administrator
From: New England
Oct 19, 2011
"i was more just under the impression you didnt understand photography which photographers run in to a lot"
No, I was pretty active with photography, studied it and had a b&w darkroom when I was in school, so I am familiar. Since going digital, I haven't been able to replace my film gear with anything of similar quality and I have gotten lazy, with quick grabs on program and only shifting exposure a little or something. I do appreciate what it takes to make good photographs, especially climbing ones here in the east, where you have to get into place and deal with difficult splotchy lighting.

Internet communication is such a pain in the ass. It is so hard to make a friendly critique without coming across like an asshole.
By Andy Librande
From: Denver, CO
Oct 19, 2011
EXIF is still being stripped from photos that are uploaded. Lee maybe you can post on the Admin forum as a fix so that it is much easier to understand how ppl are making photos.

I really like the different angles on these photos!
By lee hansche
Administrator
From: goffstown, nh
Oct 19, 2011
Actually it was shot around 100mm or 135 maybe... i do have a 400mm but i dont often bring it climbing cause its heavy and expensive...
By S. Neoh
Oct 20, 2011
Oh, you must be closer to the climb than I thought. As you have said, you had the aperture wide open resulting in so shallow a depth of field at 100 or 135 mm focal length.
By Mark Roth
From: Boulder
Oct 20, 2011
I don't have anything to add to the photography discussion. But every time you post pictures of Lily I find myself humming this song...



Great photos... but I can't stop the MUSIC in my head!
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looking down on Predator :) Lily

Submitted By: lee hansche on Oct 18, 2011
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