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Rock Climbing Photo: Bad picture. Sorry. But it shows the fixed draws a...
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By C Miller
From: CA
Sep 28, 2011
Fixed draws, really?
By Austin Baird
From: SLC, Utah
Jan 9, 2012
Yeah dude. Really. It's a roof and would be a bitch to clean. We don't go to J-Tree and start bitching about your ethics. Show us the same courtesy.

Edit to add: Not that I had anything to do with putting it up; just that I resent your bitching.
By Luke Malatesta
From: Moab Utah
Jan 9, 2012
I was one of three of the FA. The draws were put on the route later on by someone else. It was not impossible to clean with out fixed draws, just really took some work.

I think there was a really young girl (11 yrs old?) working on the route after we did it...The draws showed up around then. I am sure she could not reach bolt to bolt to clean it. We bolted it off pins nailed into the flake.

By Evan Wisheropp
May 14, 2016
Kieth didn't seem to be against the fixed draws when I talked to him about it. What bugs me is that they are cheap, old straight gate biners that are a pain to clip!!
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Bad picture. Sorry. But it shows the fixed draws and gives an idea of how the route goes

Submitted By: Spencer Weiler on Sep 27, 2011
On this route:
Horizontal Mambo (5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b )
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