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Rock Climbing Photo: Climbing The Beginning in Feb 2011. We weren't sur...
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By Andy Hansen
From: Longmont, Colorado
Feb 28, 2011
I've climbed both of the lines you've highlighted here. The Beginning trends right through the dihedral and the variation stays left. We climbed left first and figured it certainly wasn't 5.7 and then climbed the dihedral and that felt right on.
By John W. Knoernschild
From: Wisconsin
Mar 1, 2011
Andy, are you saying that The Beginning is harder than 5.7? I haven't done the dihedral to the right in the photo, but I have climbed The Beginning. It felt right on at 5.7 to me.
By Michael Bartosek
From: Los Angeles
Mar 1, 2011
I can see that, even with boots, gloves, snow and ice the variation we did seemed easier than 5.7. I imagine in fair conditions it would go easier. The dihedral looked to be a good challenge at 5.7 though, I'll wait until I can wear my climbing shoes to pop into it.
By Andy Hansen
From: Longmont, Colorado
Mar 2, 2011
I'm not saying The Beginning is not 5.7. The Beginning (if you climb the dihedral to the right of the blocky ledges) is certainly 5.7. However, the blocky ledges to the left of the dihedral are not 5.7- more like 5.5.
By Michael Bartosek
From: Los Angeles
Mar 14, 2011
I picked up a copy of Mike Farris's book (Rock Climbing in Minnesota and Wisconsin) and the left variation of that route is listed in the book as a 5.4 with a name of F4 Ledges.
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Climbing The Beginning in Feb 2011. We weren't sure if the route was supposed to stay in the dihedral (dashed white line) or go slightly left (solid white line). There was a fair bit of snow and ice, so we climbed it in boots and gloves and went left of the dihedral for a 5.5 variation?

Submitted By: Michael Bartosek on Feb 28, 2011
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The Beginning (5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b )
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