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What are the best routes...

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B Gilmore · · AZ · Joined Nov 2005 · Points: 1,260

...on the worst rock? I'm looking for people's votes for the best routes on the worst rock, and the most climbed choss piles, pure rock or mixed routes. Any ideas?

Jon B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 105

Superstition Mtns, AZ

Tons of routes, tons of choss, and tons of untapped potential.

Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 883

Garden of the Gods comes to mind. Super soft rock. Lots of great routes!

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

Eldo

but probably the Black is the hands down winner

Phil Lauffen · · Innsbruck, AT · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 3,098

the army route in north cheyenne canyon. Really fun for a 5.5, but you can dig out the hand holds and then put them where you want them.

Tobin Sanson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2008 · Points: 745

Colorado.

Bryan G · · June Lake, CA · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 6,167

Ancient Art in the Fisher Towers is one of my favorite climbs. I guess it's relatively clean thanks to all the traffic it gets, but it's still more mud than stone. I can't even imagine how scary the first ascent must have been.

B Gilmore · · AZ · Joined Nov 2005 · Points: 1,260

Let's get more specific... we all know the Black has bad rock, but I'm asking for the best/most climbed routes with the worst rock. Like the Scenic Cruise pretty much has no bad rock. I was just in the Poser's lounge and that is some great climbing with HORRENDOUS rock, you get so much s#¡+ in your eyes from all the crumbling that goes on.

Charles Vernon · · Colorado megalopolis · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 2,655

I would say in the Black, the Southern Arete has the worst rock of any route I've climbed, but it's probably my favorite route there. The actual climbing is super fun and varied, despite the rock quality--all sizes of cracks from fingers to chimney, roofs, cracks, etc.

One other that comes to mind is Turnkorner at Lumpy--has the worst rock of any route I've done there, but may be the best (and is one of the most sought-after) routes there. Some of the best climbing is on the worst rock--exciting face climbing on flexing flakes that you can pull down but not out on.

I'm sure there's some candidates at Rifle.

Ed Wright · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2006 · Points: 285

The Crescent Moon Buttress at the Culo Del Gato near El Potrero Chico. The route is 8 pitches of either very loose or very sharp rock but you get to climb over a natural arch, do a tyrolean traverse and a wild pendulum.

Andrew Caraballo · · Milwaukie, OR · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 530

Not following the rules exactly but Banks Lake, WA has some pretty awesome routes on granite that crumbles in sand size chunks onto your belayer constantly for the entire climb. An entire refrigerator sized block with a bolt shifted as a friend made his way up.

Jason Killgore · · boulder, co · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 165

Maybe some of the rock routes on Cascade Volcanoes. Something like curtis ridge on mt rainier.

Many Canadian Rockies faces seem to be notorious for horrible rock, but they are some of the most coveted routes on the continent.

YDPL8S · · Santa Monica, Ca. · Joined Aug 2003 · Points: 540

Yeah, I'll say ditto for the Cascades.

This pic is from the summit block on Three Finger Jack, in Oregon. My buddy Mike isn't roped up cuz there aren't any anchors that would hold anyway!

Andrew Caraballo · · Milwaukie, OR · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 530

This is a regular occurrence at Deep Creek in Spokane, WA one of my favorite areas.



The third bolt by the crux on the roach has ripped out several times. My favorite climb to date :P

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