BACKCOUNTRY SKI

I am starting to look for some folks to do some moderate AT stuff in the James Peak / Indian Peaks area as the snow comes in. I don't like to go by myself with the avy danger - please have a beacon. Weekedays are really good.
303-642-0741
Dwayne

Geez Tdog at least he is looking for a partner and named one of the holy trinity... I imagine you could give him a call and discuss conditions if you were interested in doing some skiing.

I would bet he's counting on someone who has a beacon having the other two pieces of low tech gear. And he said "moderate". You don't hafta climb down his throat. I imagine you teach people to carry beacons in your class. I'm glad I took someone else's.

So, I thought Dwayne wanted a ski partner not a lecture on backcountry travel skills from someone who thinks that avi equipment is frivilous..........is that a yes or no!!!??

Dwayne Wood wrote:I am starting to look for some folks to do some moderate AT stuff in the James Peak / Indian Peaks area as the snow comes in. I don't like to go by myself with the avy danger - please have a beacon. Weekedays are really good. 303-642-0741 Dwayne

TDog sounds suspiciously like my first wife.

Hey Dwayne,

I'm only free on the weekends, but I'd like to get out. Have full setup and am willing to drill with equipment as well. I am a boarder though, but have a splitboard. Wouldn't mind getting out on some moderate slopes and going from there. Drop me a PM if interested.

Wow TDog! I think you are breaking guideline #1: "Don't be a Jerk". I thought Dwayne was making a "good decision" and using "brain power" by looking for a partner. Maybe my AVI class was a bit under taught but don't you want to have a partner and aren't 2 heads better than one? Regardless of the level of Avy danger there is always the potential of danger. Seems like Dwayne is making a good decision again by looking to ski moderates. Give a PM Dwayne or anyone else for that matter. I have weekdays off too and am always looking for reliable partners who can ski/ride.

Ps. I use my AVY equipment in order to forecast and lower the potential of danger. So shouldn't an emphasis in AVI training be on the gear and how to use it correctly.

I'd be down to get out. I am in Fort Collins, though. I've got full setup and have taken two Level I courses. Moderate tours sound great. Really only available on weekends.

I'm rusty, slow and fat - but available during the week and have a beacon. I'd be up for some AT outings.
Pm me if similar.
cheers,
matt

Gary Kleiger wrote:http://www.vimeo.com/6581009 Maybe this guy would have been better off without his beacon.

Okay, I'm not looking for a partner. . .
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couple of scratches. . .BRAND NEW. Size 25
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Also
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Older model, near new condition.
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Send me a PM!

I'm interetsed. I have been traveling quite a bit recently, so I am not in the best shape, but I am off entirely for the next month. I tele, have avy gear and training, and I don't let my gear be a substitute for good judgement.

Wow TDog, why don't you just tell everyone in your classes to not go outside because chances are they might get hit by a "cool" car and die a gross and repulsive death, as it seems you think anyone looking for a responsible partner with "cool gear" that is recommended in every course for backcountry travel and is considered responsible in the realms of backcountry skiing is an idiot. Thanks for stating the obvious in judgement based decisions TDog, chances are anyone with the gumption to get out this early is proficient in the use of low tech gear and has sufficient brain power to deduct avi danger. DIE LIVING.

Guys be nice to TDog - he sounds a lot like my ex wife as well - I am sure he dosen't know I have AVY 1 and pro CPR certifications.or that I helped rescue I guy off Whitney last year on the moutaineers route - or that I don't like spray! I love this post though - it reminds me of the old rockclimbing.com days!
DW

At least in those days I had to troll!

Not to hijack this thread, but why does it seem so much harder to find backcountry ski partners than climbing partners? I climb with new people off mountainproject ALL the time. Never had a bad experience, which I guess is just my good luck I suppose. Considering you are trusting someone with your life a little more directly climbing than skiing, it's amazing we are all so willing to go out and sometimes even do big, committing multi-pitch routes with total strangers, yet as soon as I try to find a ski partner at one of these supposed backcountry skiing enthusiast websites, I have the wrath of the avalanche experts descend on me.

I have been skiing since I was about 3, and these days average around 60+ days a season, and have avalanche gear which I am familiar with and have used numerous times. I am not afraid to say have triggered a mid-sized to large avalanche and both my partner and myself escaped unharmed. So why does it seem like people automatically distrust you and/or think your a gaper when you try and find a ski partner? I have skied some pretty big stuff in East Vail, Aspen, Maroon Bells, B.C Canada, et cetera and I can tell you finding partners for those trips was like WAY harder than finding climbing partners. Anyways sorry for the rant, just frustrated. On that note, if you want to ski this season, give me a shout! Would love to have a partner to push me.
best,
Phil.

Hey Phil

To answer your question in my opinion, I think it is easier to find climbing partners because climbers tend to be a nicer community of people in general and not so bro bra cool as skiers and snowboarders tend to think they are in a general scheme of things, not all skiers though, but the general community of them. I have always felt that the climbing community was closer and warmer as a whole.

another aspect of the difficult search for ski partners, and why climbing partners is easier IMO Skiing is a much more dynamic environment than climbing static rock routes, There is way more going on in an alpine environment than just rock cragging, granted not all routes are static in the sense that rock fall and alpine remote routes might be a bit more alive in objective hazards than just cragging. But most people don't ask for partners to go climb Chiefs head or the Diamond with folks they don't know, most partner searches is for front country cragging it seems like.

People looking for backcountry ski partners are heading into a more remote and dynamic environment as a whole, and in general I prefer to go to these places with familiar folks that I know there rescue, judgement and skill sets. It seems like there is many more things that can go wrong in this environment, not just from your group, but by the use of other groups as well that might put you in a hazardous situation that you didnt choose, for instance skiing above you and you don't know they are there.

As far as TDOG's go, there is way to many righteous know it alls and self proclaimed experts out there, He is one of them. He has been on the site for about a month, uses an anonymous name and trolls, dont sweat him. So many avalanche instructors dont have the ski experience to make fun and acceptable decisions in the field because they only know how to give good powerpoint presentations and spit facts and teach a curriculum that has been handed to them. Sure that is not all instructors, there are great ones, but many avalanche instructors fill this role, My two cents IMO

Bob Packwood wrote:This thread sucks. Nobody cares that you tele.

Bob Packwood wrote: Nobody cares that you tele.

HA! Bitter haters! I've gotten laid more than once because I tele!

Anybody from northern New Mexico or southern Colorado want to put together a backcountry ski posse? Hit me up. Sliders of all stripes welcome and encouraged. Terrain management is the name of the game.