Are Hand Jammies Lame?

George Bell wrote:The name is lame.

saxfiend wrote:Heh, have to agree with you there! "Hand Jammies" sounds like something made by Fisher Price.I think a name like "Krack Konquerors" would eliminate the lameness perception entirely. A lightning bolt logo would also be a plus.

HJ's is weak. How about RCG's- Reusable Climbing Gloves i.e. "Let me grab my eco-friendly, and bad-ass, pair of RCG's!"

Oh, and with a Bolt for sure!!

There were Spider Mitts back in the day.

I never used them but now I use Hand Jammies in the gym because the cracks can get nasty from use. The Hand Jammies take seconds to put on and take a long, long time to wear out.

Outside, I rarely tape or use Hand Jammies but I do use lots of chalk so I don't see what the big deal is.

If you tape up you will be popular. All the cool kids use tape. Duh!

Shane Neal wrote:...In climbing there is no unfair advantage...

Not sure I agree with you here, as various aspects are constantly debated.

There is something to be said for striving to maintain integrity, good form, and respect for the performance standards of the sport.

IMO, better to rise to the standard, than to lower the standard.

DaveB wrote: There is something to be said for striving to maintain integrity, good form, and respect for the performance standards of the sport.

That depends on whether you consider climbing a "sport".

Rick Blair wrote: That depends on whether you consider climbing a "sport".

HA HA - Yes, I guess that's an important question.

What Hand Jammies need is the right spokesperson. A full-page ad in Climbing magazine showing Chuck Norris free-soloing a 65' roof crack in nothing but flip flops and Hand Jammies. That would mark the end of the "are hand jammies lame" debate.

JL

saxfiend wrote:What Hand Jammies need is the right spokesperson. A full-page ad in Climbing magazine showing Chuck Norris free-soloing a 65' roof crack in nothing but flip flops and Hand Jammies. That would mark the end of the "are hand jammies lame" debate. JL

Flip flops? On Chuck?

Maybe some cowboys boots made from the hides of the asses he's kicked.

d.

Chris Clarke wrote:There were Spider Mitts back in the day.

That's the name of what I have! Basically just like HJ's but with a "cool name".

blah, blibidy,blah.......dude fuck what everyone says about these kind of things including me, do what you want you will anyways. on the other hand you got 2 pages out of it so cheers.

I think a thick tape job and a set of hand jammies for a man eating offwidth are totally cool and legit.

Thanks Everyone who contributed to this absurd thread... it really kept me smiling through the day! Viva La Hand Jammies!! Also the idea of Chuck Norris free soloing with hand Jammies made this whole thing totally worth it. You guys Rock!

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I thought I recognized this conversation...

John J. Glime wrote:I thought I recognized this conversation...

It's deja vu all over again.

JL

Shane Neal wrote: Bob who said what??

Scarpelli. Who put up such notables as Squat, New Maps of Hell, Slick and Superficial, Trip Master Monkey, Dancin All Night, Moonsault, and countless other twelves. Why do I mention this? These are all 5.12s at Vedauwoo.

If anybody can talk about what's good for protecting your hands, its Bob. Shit, check out Alpinist 20 for more.

But really, johnL is right. We tape so we can climb more tomorrow, not so we can climb harder. So why have a stiff piece of sticky rubber strapped to your hand? A single layer of tape is more than enough, and climb cracks long enough in all but the most abrasive environments, and you'll stop using tape.

super duper lame. Just tape em up.

WiledHorse wrote:. what if you wore them backwards and climbed slab with them?

Didn't Randy Leavitt do something like this for the stemming on Book of Hate (13d)?

Jim Fraley wrote:super duper lame. Just tape em up.

Why don't you just tape up your feet instead of wrapping them in hi-tech rubber?

Ok, I have to chime in. Here's my opinion. If you are using hand jammies to "compensate" for something, they are lame. All of the comparisons to climbing shoes are lame. The difference is you don't walk barefoot all day everyday. Human Beings rely on shoes. I don't use finger condoms for typing, playing guitar, or anything for that matter. Hands should be FREE! Feet should have shoes. Tape should be protection against abrasion not to also "compensate" for your lack in size, but may be used for a lack of stamina when necessary. With proper training I have found I need tape less and less. If I'm doing one or two routes I almost always go sans tape, if I am doing a whole day of jamming I would rather use the tape. Hand may even jammies have their place: Training or quick protection where taping is inconvenient. OK I have shared my opinion and now can feel better about myself and go back to work...

It's more about the velcro than the rubber.

They come off without risking a trip to the emergency room, don't add 15 minutes of sitting around waiting for partners to tape up, don't get left on all day (or more!) to avoid going through it again.

I sewed velcro on some tape gloves, too. Works good.