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By Monomaniac
Administrator
From: Morrison, CO
Dec 28, 2008
What's in the backpack?
By matthewWallace
From: plymouth, nh
Dec 28, 2008
In the backpack is water and a longsleeve that I hiked in wearing and possible so sort of powerbar, why you ask?
By Monomaniac
Administrator
From: Morrison, CO
Dec 29, 2008
Well, I was wondering why you would need so much stuff for a two pitch climb, and so I was thinking of making some kind of dick-head comment, but I'm trying to be less of a prick, so I decided I would just ask, figuring maybe there was a good reason that I hadn't thought of. Maybe this way we could both learn something, instead of only you learning that I'm an @$$hole.

IMO, a backpack while rock climbing is a relic of the "10 essentials" mentality. This is a great mentality to have if you want to be able to get out of any situation. Another mentality that also works is to be light & fast, and thus hope to avoid such situations by limiting one's exposure to objective hazards (like darkness). I used to bring a pack on every multi-pitch climb. When I started leaving the pack on the ground, I suddenly got a lot better, but it took some convincing to make that leap. What I would do is tie the long-sleeve shirt around my waste, put the powerbar in a pocket, and pound the water before I left (or on a longer route, bring a camelback, or clip a nalgene-type thing to my gear loop)...not that you wanted my advice.

Anyway, nice pic!
By matthewWallace
From: plymouth, nh
Dec 29, 2008
Hey any advice is good advice, and never really thought about it that way but it think why I carry that back pack is that it is also a camelback, and I hate tying stuff around my waist it bothers me more than a backpack, its kind of an issue I have (I know I am weird), and we did more than just that route we continued up black lung and upper refuse, but hey thanks for the compliment on the pic haha
By lee hansche
Administrator
From: goffstown, nh
Dec 29, 2008
im glad folks are learning not to be pricks to each other... thats what i love about the proj... keeping it positive and learning from each other, so nice... i have made the same transition to light and fast climbing... i normally bring water clipped to the harness and a bar in my pocket... i would note that this only works if you are indeed light and FAST it wont work too well for beginner trad teams who might be light an SLOW for a while and get caught in the rain or dehidrated or what not...

i have watched a team on Recompense all day while me and a partner go to the top and down a few times, between our climbs we can drop a layer or grab another at the car while grabbing a bite to eat but they need it all with them...

so thats my two cents... sorry its a bit long...
By matthewWallace
From: plymouth, nh
Dec 30, 2008
Yeah light and fast seems like the way to go when you have it dialed but this was when was just starting multi-pitch experiences and since I'm not that experienced with trad I still like to be prepared but I will also probably trend towards the light and fast aspect as I get more comfortable with it. Thanks for the advice it is appreciated.
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You can see how deep the hands sink in to the crack

Submitted By: matthewWallace on Dec 28, 2008
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Bombardment (5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c )
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