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Warriors Way in Colorado and Wyoming Early Next Month
Submitted By: John McNamee on Jul 25, 2008

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Rather than putting this in the event and maybe people missing it I thought it better go up on the home page:

  • Vedauwoo Trad/Mental 3-Day Camp: Aug 4-6, Contact Amy at Rock'n and Jam'n #1 (303-254-6299)

  • Espresso 4-hour Clinic at Boulder Rock Club: Sunday Aug 10 2-6pm, contact BRC (800-836-4008)

  • Espresso 4-hour Clinic at Rock'n and Jam'n #1: Monday Aug 11 6-10pm, contact R&J (303-254-6299)

  • Espresso 4-hour Clinic at Rock'n and Jam'n #2: Wednesday Aug 13 6-10pm, contact R&J (303-254-6299)

  • Slideshow Presentation on Mental Fitness at REI Boulder: Tuesday Aug 12, 7pm
  • Slideshow Presentation on Mental Fitness at REI Lakewood: Thursday Aug 14, 7pm

For more information please contact:

615-406-3404 cell

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By Will S
From: Joshua Tree
Jul 28, 2008
How does this qualify as "news"? Seems like blatant advertising to me.
By CascadeKid
Jul 29, 2008
Will, look here for the history....
By Will S
From: Joshua Tree
Aug 5, 2008
Thanks for the link Cascadekid. I guess it is ultimately the decision of the site owner/admin. Still blatant and unwelcome advertising in my book.
By John McNamee
From: Littleton, CO
Aug 5, 2008

I placed it up on the home page in the news section so that people didn't miss it since it was short notice.

I also get emails from people telling me that events aren't promoted well enough... Sometimes it is hard to please everyone.

By Galibier_Numero_Un
From: Erie, CO
Aug 5, 2008

I'd like to thank you for posting this announcement here. I realize it's a slippery slope as far as what's published and what isn't, and ultimately, an events forum (perhaps cleared by an admin) is the only reasonable compromise.

One thing is certain, that this forum would be much poorer without the presence of Arno Ilgner, Eli Helmuth, and other guides. These fine fellows make up for quantity with the quality of their contributions.

By John McNamee
From: Littleton, CO
Aug 6, 2008
Thanks for the feedback. I intend to go to the show on REI in Lakewood. It's free.
The Rock Warrior's Way :"Digging Deep into Mental Training" with author Arno Ilgner

8/14/2008 7:00 PM
If you've been wondering how to improve your climbing and rise to the next level, then it's a must to attend this presentation on the foundational principles of The Warrior's Way program.

The Warrior's Way is a comprehensive program for learning how to focus your mental resources during a challenging climb. It includes step-by-step guidance on motivation analysis, information gathering, risk assessment, mental focus, and deliberate transition into action.

The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session during which you can ask specific questions about your particular climbing challenges. Arno will then be available to sign his new book, The Rock Warrior's Way.
Contact:Customer Service (303) 932-0600
Cost: Free
Registration Required? No.
By Will S
From: Joshua Tree
Aug 7, 2008
Hi John,

True enough, you can't make everyone happy nor should you try. I'll accept that I'm in the minority on this one. But I do take exception to Thom's comment that: "...this forum would be much poorer without the presence of Arno Ilgner.."

Interesting assertion. So I looked at what the gentleman in question has contributed. No areas, no routes, no photos, no comments, no points. Started 6 threads in forum, 4 of which were advertisements. Sorry, but I don't see it. Not trying to be a dick, just voicing my opinion.
By Galibier_Numero_Un
From: Erie, CO
Aug 7, 2008
Hi Will,

Go here
and here

Maybe I'm a sucker for self improvement stuff, but Arno's book (in the spirit of these two posts) has transformed my climbing in ways that I'm still assimilating. In the quality over quantity department, these two posts are priceless.

I think at issue here is how a small guy (a guide, etc.) can reasonably contribute to this forum and deservedly (in my humble opinion) draw attention to his business.

I'd rather err on the side of encouraging these folks post until they prove that they're abusing the "system".

I doubt they have much time to post. After all, they're not desk-jockeys like many of us, and sitting down at a keyboard after a hard day at the "office" isn't an easy thing to do for them. I'm for throwing them a bone to encourage their contributions, as long as they don't step way over the line.

We all have different thresholds for "purity", and I suppose mine is a bit more tolerant than yours is in this regard. I want to see these folks be able to continue plying their craft.


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