Do you stick clip? Why or why not?

reboot wrote:People use "trad(itional)" not for pre-sport climbing, but specifically for clean climbing.

There are still plenty of new "trad" lines going in that are put up with a hammer and pins. Even with the pitons (usually) being left as fixed gear, it seems to blur the "clean" designation.

I hate to be pedantic here in light of your booboo but the cause of this accident wasn't lack of stick clip, so we really can't draw that conclusion. I understand what you're saying, you fell to the ground from a height and this happened, so use a stick clip. Trouble is we've got a faulty equation. We know 1+2+3=6 (one is the fall from a certain height, two is you hitting the ground, three is why you hit the ground, and 6 is the meatloaf that you now call a foot). Skipping a stickclip is an entirely different equation.

Bad belayer sure. Potential poor bolt placement, sure. Climbing higher than you'd have done with nothing. All possible.

To tie it in to stick clipping, maybe the lesson is to get a longer stick clip and clip the second bolt. That's totally legit in a lot situation, don't hate.

Hope your foot heals up quick and you stay psyched.

For the record, I love stickclips and proper use of cause and effect.

Daniel García 1 wrote:For anyone hating on stick clips, the risk is real.

I don't think that was ever in debate. But there comes a point where you choose to take on risk in the name of enjoyment of climbing. Otherwise why not just top rope or walk to the top.

Likewise trad climbing is a thing. No stick clips there. (Well I have thrown a hex into a slot above my head to protect a bouldery start.)

I have also used a stick clip, maybe twice or three times in my life... I use a stick and tape, none of these purpose built things.

patto wrote: Likewise trad climbing is a thing. No stick clips there. (Well I have thrown a hex into a slot above my head to protect a bouldery start.)

What? I was thinking of bringing one of these down the carriage road at the Trapps Saturday!

Trad stick clip

patto wrote: I use a stick and tape, none of these purpose built things.

So raw bro, you should go pro

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patto wrote:...I use a stick and tape, none of these purpose built things.

That's nice, and so 1986 of you.

cheater sticks?
why not just top rope?
its safer

rock gumby wrote:cheater sticks? why not just top rope? its safer

Maybe reread the entire thread? You're missing a really simple concept.

Eli Buzzell wrote:I always bring my 36' cam stick to trad areas and shove in a bomber anchor half way up all the routes. It makes me feel much safer when I am going for multiple falls trying to onsight a route in yellowpoint style. All the routes are sandbagged 3 number grades anyway.

Marc801 wrote: BITD - mid-80's - this is exactly what a somewhat notorious Gunks climber did.

The statute of imitations is due to repeat, who's the the mid-80s notorious climber ?
It reeks of Don Don,

I'm short and used cheat sticks to hang some draws
IIRC, we would climb up, set a nut & draw, make the clip, down climb,
check the placement take some courage &
climb past the manky pro to the 1st horizontal.
Trying to remember, ? Harvest Moon, yellow wall, to have or have not.... The bolt on Keep On Strutting. . . .?
Sky Top was full of long reaches, Kashmir, Scare City, Hocus Crockus, Land of Milk&...

Michael Schneider wrote: The statute of imitations is due to repeat, who's the the mid-80s notorious climber ? It reeks of Don Don,...

Winner!

lol @ Bill Kirby

ultra stick clip

Stick Clip= A clip point lol. Silly stuff.

Now that we've beat the "do or do not" stick clip to death (or not). Which device do you like best (and why) and how long a stick do you carry? I'm an old trad climber wanting to start doing some sport and can use some advice - especially in view of thinking about flying with a pole in luggage :)

i use a golf ball retriever with a yates super clip on the end

Chris Rice wrote:Now that we've beat the "do or do not" stick clip to death (or not). Which device do you like best (and why) and how long a stick do you carry? I'm an old trad climber wanting to start doing some sport and can use some advice - especially in view of thinking about flying with a pole in luggage :)

Superclip. It's inexpensive, easy to use and durable since it's made out of metal. The Trango stick clip being made out of plastic will break if it drops.

I use an inexpensive 4' to 8' painters pole from the hardware store. The length you need will depend where you climb. But if you're needing to fly with something in your luggage you are probably going to have to look at the Superclip with 6.5' Mini Pole, or something else like it if you can find it. Another option is to just buy an inexpensive painters pole when you arrive at your climbing destination and donate it when you leave.

Chris Rice wrote:Now that we've beat the "do or do not" stick clip to death (or not). Which device do you like best (and why) and how long a stick do you carry? I'm an old trad climber wanting to start doing some sport and can use some advice - especially in view of thinking about flying with a pole in luggage :)

Where are you flying to? The last time I was at the RRG there were a bunch of beat up old stick clips in the Gazebo at Muir valley. Bringing just the superclip (or squid) and picking up a pole when you get there as someone else suggested is a great idea.

Anyone have a good recommendation on an extendable stick that goes from ~4' up to 12' or so? I've got a painters pole that goes from 6' to 12' and is a great length, but doesn't fit in some of my friends' cars (or at least not in a way that is comfortable for passengers).

anotherclimber wrote: 6.5' Mini Pole

Just googled this. Looks cool, but am personally looking for something with a bit more length. How sturdy is it?

Trango beta stick. Fits into a duffel. It is plastic, well, the head is, but it's been to Patagonia x2, Europe x2, and Canada. Hasn't broken yet!

will ar wrote: Looks cool, but am personally looking for something with a bit more length. How sturdy is it?

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that is what she would be saying!!!!

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