Sexy Grandma Jtree 5 Alpine draws taken

If you found the 5 alpine draws off Sexy Grandma in Jtree on 5/14/2016 please return them (213) 453-8119, I would really appreciate it, that would be so solid and a case of your favorite beer in return. Thanks everyone.

I am sorry you lost your draws and I hope you get them back. I'd check the bulletin board in the campsite.

However, J tree is not a sport climbing area. It was not really ok to leave you shit up. According to area standards, these are not pre-hung draws, they are simply booty. Please take this as a lesson learned and clean up after yourself when you are done playing.

matt c. wrote:I am sorry you lost your draws and I hope you get them back. I'd check the bulletin board in the campsite. However, J tree is not a sport climbing area. It was not really ok to leave you shit up. According to area standards, these are not pre-hung draws, they are simply booty. Please take this as a lesson learned and clean up after yourself when you are done playing.

Definitely not okay to leave draws up at JTree. I would have gone out of my way to get those off of that route even if I hadn't planned on climbing Sexy Grandma in the first place. It's also not okay to leave a rope up to "reserve" your climb when you're not there. Different rules for different places.

Jon Hartmann wrote:It's also not okay to leave a rope up to "reserve" your climb when you're not there. Different rules for different places.

I'd be curious to know why someone would leave their draws on Sexy Grandma.

Any incite into this from the OP?

sexy grandma isn't hard enough to officially be project worthy. your loss.

You left draws on a soft 5.9, located 10' away from the most climbed pitch in the monument.

Why would you do that?

Brian in SLC wrote:Any incite into this from the OP?

Rob T wrote: I'm going with autocorrect, no rocket surgeon is that dum.

I just mentioned the rope because 2 weeks ago I showed up to do double cross and there was a rope up and no one around. I moved the rope to the side, climbed the route and when I got to the top I saw that the rope was through the rappel rings. I wasn't going to rap someone else's rope and I wasn't going to put two ropes through the same rings so I just dropped thier rope. A dude came back to the route and asked why I had taken his rope down and I told him why. Then I asked why he had left it up in the first place and he said that he was still top roping the route. So.., then I had to get on him for top roping through rappel rings and how you can't leave a rope up to reserve one of the most popular routes in JTree. I hate being a dick but... I'm kinda a dick.

Jon that's not being a dick, that's just pointing out common sense.

Wait, this climb is 5.9?

Sexy Grandma is rated 5.9 but it's a pretty soft climb.

I just looked at the sexy grandma link and saw the O.P.'s post in the comments. The O.P. actually LEFT THE DRAWS ON THE ROUTE OVERNIGHT. The next morning someone snagged the legit booty. Sorry dude, that was dumb as dumb can get. I can't believe you would think someone wouldnt take those....

One piece left on a route is booty, normally. A rope or the entire route quickdraws is somebody forgot their shit or projecting. It's sexy grandma... obviously we forgot the gear, it was nighttime ops, my second didn't climb and we forgot it was a sport route. It's a shame people are into taking gear that ain't theirs and then coming on mp to defend it likes it cool... "Booty!". It's a sad day climbers if everyone is seeing gear and thinking booty over making an effort to return gear. Hope you never space out and this happens to you. Leave your dog eat dog world in the city.

UPGRADE35 wrote:we forgot it was a sport route

UPGRADE35 wrote:One piece left on a route is booty, normally. A rope or the entire route quickdraws is somebody forgot their shit or projecting. It's sexy grandma... obviously we forgot the gear, it was nighttime ops, my second didn't climb and we forgot it was a sport route. It's a shame people are into taking gear that ain't theirs and then coming on mp to defend it likes it cool... "Booty!". It's a sad day climbers if everyone is seeing gear and thinking booty over making an effort to return gear. Hope you never space out and this happens to you. Leave your dog eat dog world in the city.

UPGRADE35 wrote:One piece left on a route is booty, normally. A rope or the entire route quickdraws is somebody forgot their shit or projecting. It's sexy grandma... obviously we forgot the gear, it was nighttime ops, my second didn't climb and we forgot it was a sport route. It's a shame people are into taking gear that ain't theirs and then coming on mp to defend it likes it cool... "Booty!". It's a sad day climbers if everyone is seeing gear and thinking booty over making an effort to return gear. Hope you never space out and this happens to you. Leave your dog eat dog world in the city.

I'm just another climber trying to get by, making it day by day buddy. Not preaching, just don't have money to buy more gear that's it. Peace to you, happy climbing.