Color coded racking carabiners

mattm wrote:These look nice: From here: Splitter Choss WOR 2012 I'm still holding out for "coloured" DMM Alpha Lights/Trads

Those do look nice!
I was all excited when someone mentioned hooded, color coded OZ biners.
Unfortunately, those are just colored, slightly modified Hoodwire carabiners. Probably still heavier than Neutrinos.

Gotta agree... the green neutrino looks way too much like a normal gray biner.

mugsy wrote: Those do look nice! I was all excited when someone mentioned hooded, color coded OZ biners. Unfortunately, those are just colored, slightly modified Hoodwire carabiners. Probably still heavier than Neutrinos.

these are the new oz hoodwires. said to be the same weight as before (1oz.) even with the hood.

S Denny wrote: these are the new oz hoodwires. said to be the same weight as before (1oz.) even with the hood.

Interesting. The features of the biner are almost identical to the current Hoodwire. Are they smaller?

the new oz hoodwires are smaller than the hoodwires that are available now. i got to see one at the ouray ice fest when black diamond was showing off their new carabiners. i also got to play around with the new magnitron carabiners too and was impressed.

its a 1 ounce hoodwire, and they are making them in the same colors as their neutrinos. they are smaller, maybe a bit bigger than a CAMP nano. they will be really good for racking and gear sides of quickdraws/alpinedraws/etc when they come out this year....

Man, I feel bad for the OP. We got everybody sounding off on the dumbest non-arguments now. Killis clearly came here to troll and talk about what a badass he thinks he is and nobody really cares.

As for the OP, I don't see much reason to look past neutrinos for your cams. Not the absolute lightest on the market, but they are pretty light and make it easy to see which piece you are going for. Also, they don't cost an absurd amount.

biners ueli and honnold use on their nose run ... no one here climbs faster or needs to save weight more than them on their nose speed runs ...

thats good enough for me ...

Honold having a prominent BD sponsorship would have nothing to do with that rack setup?

or Ueli with Beal and Petzl?

I wonder what the PERFECT setup for high end climbers would be if there weren't sponsorship dollars at play and they could choose what they wanted from ANYTHING.

RE: saving weight on a speed run on the nose. Yeah, to a point that might be important but, functionality and speed/ease of use HAVE to play a role too. You might want to run Nanos or FS minis but they might be a PITA to use when climbing fast.

The Metolious FS Minis are great for racking cams, but don't plan on using them for much else unless you have small fingers. They're so small that I find I fumble with them a lot more than larger wiregates.

I want : Clippy Thing

Though it may simply be because of the sexy UK accent

mattm wrote:Honold having a prominent BD sponsorship would have nothing to do with that rack setup? or Ueli with Beal and Petzl? I wonder what the PERFECT setup for high end climbers would be if there weren't sponsorship dollars at play and they could choose what they wanted from ANYTHING. RE: saving weight on a speed run on the nose.

get stronger and better ...

you can worry about perfect ... or you can just go out and climb

obviously honnold and ueli just went out and climbed that day ... no one else here climbs at their level i assume

good climbers can climb on anything ... some of my partners use those old back breaking solid gates ... and they put me to shame on lead despite my fancy heliums, nitros and shields

mattm wrote: Yeah, to a point that might be important but, functionality and speed/ease of use HAVE to play a role too. You might want to run Nanos or FS minis but they might be a PITA to use when climbing fast.

again ... good climber can climb on anything ... heres dean potter and sean leary with the current nose record ... those sure look like FS mini (either way they are those faffy notched biners)... they were able to break yuji and hans record (which by the way was done with old school notched biners)

what really matters is the climber ...

no one here i take it is speed climbing the nose ... i find it very funny when people tell me how much they cant use certain biners or how an extra 1g will kill em ...

mountain-nut wrote:the new oz hoodwires are smaller than the hoodwires that are available now. i got to see one at the ouray ice fest when black diamond was showing off their new carabiners. i also got to play around with the new magnitron carabiners too and was impressed. its a 1 ounce hoodwire, and they are making them in the same colors as their neutrinos. they are smaller, maybe a bit bigger than a CAMP nano. they will be really good for racking and gear sides of quickdraws/alpinedraws/etc when they come out this year....

Thanks for confirming mountain-nut. That is great news. I have no problems with the size of Nanos, but I hated the full size Hoodwires. Sounds like a winner to me.

Phil Lauffen wrote:I want : Clippy Thing Though it may simply be because of the sexy UK accent

Agreed.

bearbreeder wrote: get stronger and better ... you can worry about perfect ... or you can just go out and climb obviously honnold and ueli just went out and climbed that day ... no one else here climbs at their level i assume good climbers can climb on anything ... some of my partners use those old back breaking solid gates ... and they put me to shame on lead despite my fancy heliums, nitros and shields again ... good climber can climb on anything ... heres dean potter and sean leary with the current nose record ... those sure look like FS mini (either way they are those faffy notched biners)... they were able to break yuji and hans record (which by the way was done with old school notched biners) what really matters is the climber ... no one here i take it is speed climbing the nose ... i find it very funny when people tell me how much they cant use certain biners or how an extra 1g will kill em ...

Bear - We get it. You don't like gear lust. Yeah, 1g doesn't matter much. WHO CARES? I (and others) enjoy the "tech" nerdery. It's fun. All the shiny bit and bobbles are PART of why I like climbing. They're obviously not important to your climbing experience.

Let it go man. It doesn't affect you one iota.

I'll climb on your old rack just fine. I just like my well tuned rack a bit more. That's all.

to each their own right?

cheers

mattm wrote: Bear - We get it. You don't like gear lust. Yeah, 1g doesn't matter much. WHO CARES? I (and others) enjoy the "tech" nerdery. It's fun. All the shiny bit and bobbles are PART of why I like climbing. They're obviously not important to your climbing experience. Let it go man. It doesn't affect you one iota. I'll climb on your old rack just fine. I just like my well tuned rack a bit more. That's all. to each their own right? cheers

its yr choice what you spend money on and climb on ... people climb on what they want

just dont be one of those people who tell others that notchess biners are the only way to go, or you cant climb well without a certain type of biner, or that you are "safer" with some fancy gridlock, etc ... weve all seen those threads

because i guarantee you someone can climb harder than you or me with that piece of "poor" gear

and i do own and use those not so shiny anymore fancy biners ... shields, heliums, nitros, nanos, ions, neons, spectres .... etc ...

I rack on one color biner and only pay attention to the sling. The color of the biner is meaningless.

Just like all the mountain bike weight game threads I participate in here...

If you spent the money you spend on lighter stuff using it for gas/ food money, and the time arguing weights actaully getting out there you'll be better than if you got that new stuff. (or hell probably a rack overhaul would get you a woodie)

That being said, a read every single review out there and love the tech behind it (and want those colored Oz's). Probably have read through every review on OutdoorGearLab :P

You said it. My butt needs to drop 10 lbs. I've never worried that much about weights once most of my biners went sub 40g. I've never been one to upgrade to save 3g per. I'll just take my lighter descent shoes...

that said, colors are here to stay...

CAMP has come out with colored Photons.

Hell Yeah.

Alpha Trad Colors

Photons (as mentioned above) and also Nano 23's are now available in technicolor.