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New Rope With Exposed Core...

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Mostafa Noori · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 601

I have this new rope used 4 times never taken a fall on it. Today I went out and did a multipitch and on the descent rappels I noticed the core was exposed. I didn't see it when I wrapped the rope up to move to the rap stations so it must have happened during the rappelling.

Has this happened to anyone else in RR?
Rope is a New England Glider 70m 9.9

Core exposed...

Loren Trager · · Flagstaff, AZ · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 165

That sucks, man. My rope has some sheath abrasion in a spot from a rappel, but nothing like that. The photo's a little blurry, but it looks like it was cut by a sharp edge. Is there anything on the other half of the rope in the symmetric spot, like the 2 sides ran over the same sharp edge during a double-rope rappel? Or did it get caught in a constriction and then get tugged through? IF you really didn't do anything that could reasonably cause a cut sheath like that, return the rope or get a replacement. Think about it: ropes are not exactly protected when they're kept hanging in stores. Maybe it had a small cut in the sheath that grew when you stretched the rope.

I was about to buy that same rope yesterday for $180. New England makes good ropes and has reasonable prices.

Jon OBrien · · Nevada · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 917

i love the rope as well and have had alot of good luck with them in RR... but a guy in zion told me that two of his friends were really disappointed in the rope and had your identical experience: seems the density and handling are great but they put encased it in a single-layer sheath (?) just repeating what i was told...

kind of a bummer to see a 3rd report of the same exact situation w/ the same exact rope ('specially since jasmine just unwrapped her brand-new 9.9 new england last week! dang!)

please post if you get a return in case it happens to us too

thanks!

jon

Mostafa Noori · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 601

Its a great rope I really like it and will probably get another. I have their equinox rope which has been great. I checked to see if the other end equal to it had any abrasions and I found nothing near it. It had to have happen from pulling the rope and I don't recall any rock formations sharp enough, but could be possible. I could only think it happened from the shrubs/trees because it did get caught a few times...is that possible?! It would be a pretty weak sheath if that was.

Jonathan S · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 2,113

you should call up NE Ropes and get it replaced.

Yarp · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 0

Wow.

JCM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 115

Warranty that sh*t. There's a good chance that the company, seeing that the rope is brand new, will throw you a bone. Even if it doesn't work out, it is worth trying.

fat cow · · St. Paul, MN · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 10

seems like everyone I know with a NE rope has issues of sorts at some point...

JJNS · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 531

This guy had a coreshot on a New England Galaxy: mountainproject.com/v/fell-…

Mark Mueller · · Surprise, AZ · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 185

Get the Sterling Evolution Velocity 9.8 next time and you won't have to worry about anything like that.

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 804

Wow...it is amazing how everyone immediately blames the gear manufacturer. I would suspect that the same thing would have happened with any rope. Obviously cut by use. If it was cut when you received it wouldn't you notice it?

Robert Fielding · · Thousand Oaks, CA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 195

Well, it is a little suspicious. i have been climbing for five plus years and only got a core shot once on a rope and it was because i fell over a sharp edge. did your second ever hang on the rope while climbing? like john said, im sure they will be curious. could be a rope defect.

Mostafa Noori · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 601

I dont want to place blame on the manufacture I like their ropes I think something must have happened on the descent. Neither my friend nor I fell or hang on it.

The route we were on was Trihardral on lotta balls wall. Did the lotta balls rappel descent. mountainproject.com/v/triha…

So after discussing with my friend I was climbing with we came up with another possibility of it possibly getting hit during the climb.
There is this section on the second pitch that had a lot of large loose rocks and one rock went crashing down. It could be possibly that the rope got smashed as it bounced down. Although as I mentioned earlier I didn't see anything wrong with the rope as I coiled it to move to the first rap station.

One more thing the damage is somewhere in the end of the rope within 15ft or so.

Core 1

Core 2

Core 3

Core 4...maybe i should be a hand model

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Nevada
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