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When You're Lost In The Wild

5.11b, Sport, 1100 ft (333 m), 11 pitches,  Avg: 3.3 from 87 votes
FA: Ian Lingley (Feb 8 2022)
International > N America > Mexico > Nuevo Leon > El Potrero Chico > El Toro (The Fr… > Wild Wall

Description

This route was developed ground up Solo over 5 weeks and offers fantastic views of Hidalgo at an obtainable grade. Most of the climbing is 5.8 and 5.9 with a few short boulder problems mixed in. 

Pitch 1 - 5.9 25 m 12 bolts Mostly easy face climbing with a tricky move to the belay ledge.

Pitch 2 - 5.8 23 m 10 bolts enjoyable climbing utilizing cracks and corners.

Pitch 3 - 5.8  37 m 14 bolts not the best pitch on the route, starts on a easy corner but finishes on some fun exposed features. Climb past the rap station to the base of the 4th pitch. There are two bolts at chest height below the crack of P4 to belay from.

Pitch 4 - 5.11-  20 m 9 bolts Amazing crack system that will keep you on your toes. Crack climbing skills will help you on this short but technical pitch.

Pitch 5 - 5.10 33m  13 bolts Great series of moves for the first 30ft that will make you think leads to easier climbing.

From the anchor of pitch 5 climb 30ft of 3rd/4th class with a past 2 bolts to base of pitch 6 and a fairly flat ledge

Pitch 6 - 5.8 25m 9 bolts Standard EPC face climbing.

Pitch 7 - 5.10- 25m 12 bolts A short crack boulder problem then easier climbing leads to one more short crux then easy face climbing to the anchor.

Pitch 8 - 5.10- 25m 9 bolts tricky move down low then stranded EPC face climbing with great holds.

Pitch 9 - 5.10 25m 10 bolts A bit of slab climbing leads to a short roof, 25ft later you have one more move that makes you think then relaxed climbing to the anchor.

Pitch 10 - 5.10-  30m 11 bolts A short crux under an over hang leads to a fun move to access the exposed arete. Easy face climbing to the anchors

Pitch 11- 5.9 30m 9 bolts Starts left of the anchor on the arete one move later your on fun move heading towards the summit. Finishes with 20 feet of dirty gully climbing to an amazing spire summit.

Rap the route with a 70M. All standard raps down the route. When arriving at the pitch 6 belay anchor walk with the fix ropes to pitch 5 anchor to continue rapping.  When rapping pitch 4 go to the lower anchor with the chain links. 

Location

Follow the trail towards Sendero luminous/Plutonia Cave. Take the trail to Plutonia cave. After arriving at the cave there's a well marked trail heading uphill on the right side of the cave. Follow the cairns to the base of the climb.The route is obvious. 

Note: continue past the first climb along the trail with orange cordelette anchors, this is an unfinished route not When You're Lost in the Wild.

Protection

14 draws and 70M rope

Photos [Hide ALL Photos]

The fantastic summit overlooking the town of Hidalgo
[Hide Photo] The fantastic summit overlooking the town of Hidalgo
Me on the summit after the FFA
[Hide Photo] Me on the summit after the FFA
Trail marker above Plutonia and just past the Beyond Plutonia crag. Trail follows the wash up with fairly regular cairns for another 10ish minutes
[Hide Photo] Trail marker above Plutonia and just past the Beyond Plutonia crag. Trail follows the wash up with fairly regular cairns for another 10ish minutes
Dave Dekelskamp lost in the wild – crux pitch is for real.
[Hide Photo] Dave Dekelskamp lost in the wild – crux pitch is for real.
The view of When You're Lost in the Wild from Black Star
[Hide Photo] The view of When You're Lost in the Wild from Black Star
Pitch 3 -11
[Hide Photo] Pitch 3 -11
Connor coming up the summit pitch
[Hide Photo] Connor coming up the summit pitch
Joe onsighting the money pitch. Last day in the canyon. October 2023.
[Hide Photo] Joe onsighting the money pitch. Last day in the canyon. October 2023.
Pitch 6 – Dave D setting out on my nomination for best pitch of 5.8 at EPC
[Hide Photo] Pitch 6 – Dave D setting out on my nomination for best pitch of 5.8 at EPC
Base of the 5.11 pitch.
[Hide Photo] Base of the 5.11 pitch.
Ledge below P4 crack. Whip is clean.
[Hide Photo] Ledge below P4 crack. Whip is clean.
Base of the climb
[Hide Photo] Base of the climb

Comments [Hide ALL Comments]

I F
[Hide Comment] Pretty impressive solo project Ian, congrats! Feb 10, 2022
Connor Szostak
Denver, CO
  5.11-
[Hide Comment] Nice work! We had a lot of fun on this despite freezing our butts off, this is definitely best saved for a capital H Hot day. The position and views are incredible, and the extended slab/face sequences between the boulder problems offer fun, flowy movement. I climb 11 face regularly and the 10/- boulder problems were thinkers for sure. The crux is surprisingly difficult and rewards well-rounded climbers. Tape for P4 isn't a bad idea.

One bolt in the middle was spinning pretty bad (I can't remember the exact pitch, between 5 and 7) and 2 others had slightly loose nuts that we got finger tight, but with how closely bolted the route is it never felt unsafe. Really nice work, Ian, I hope people suck up the (by most other areas, pretty average) approach and enjoy this secluded adventure.

If you're climbing it in the coming days/weeks, it's going to be dirty. It's new. We pulled off maybe 2 or 3 actual rocks and holds but for the most part we just got a pebble/dirt shower after pulling our ropes. Nothing too dangerous but I would definitely not climb under another party on this for a bit. Feb 18, 2022
BCamp
Carlsbad, CA
[Hide Comment] Great route Ian! It was pretty awesome to do a route that had just been completed not even 2 weeks prior. Pulled a piece of rock off pitch 6, light dirt on pitch 1&2. Feb 28, 2022
[Hide Comment] My pal Amanda and I climbed this and had a great time. We agree generally with Ian's ratings of the pitches. Don't be scared off by how dirty the first pitch is, it gets quite a bit cleaner after that. Thanks for all of the hard work putting it up, Ian! Mar 16, 2022
Ezra David
Massachusetts
[Hide Comment] Getting there: I was unable to find useful beta on MP for getting to Plutonia Cave and Sendero Luminoso Wall, so here it is: go to the trailhead for Satori, but instead of taking that trail, go through the gate of the campground and take the rightmost trail (maybe 10 ft to the right of the trailhead for Satori), then follow signs to Plutonia Cave. Jan 3, 2023
Jeb Wennrich
Bethlehem, NH
  5.11c
[Hide Comment] Thanks so much for putting this incredible route up Ian, 10/10 climb. Grades were refreshingly stiff, no gimmes. This climb has it all, burly moves, hard crack, fancy footwork. Rock quality was better than majority of classics in EPC. Favorite climb down here, get on it! Jan 18, 2023
MAKB
Denver, CO.
  5.11c
[Hide Comment] Jeb, I'm not sure which classic routes you're comparing this to, but I thought the rock quality on this one was mediocre at best. I broke two holds on the way up and trundled tons of loose blocks on the way down. The route was certainly a good time, but not quite a Potrero classic, IMO. The crux pitch was fantastic, but the rest were pretty average and P1 might get one star if we're being generous. That said, I think it'll still clean up and improve. Nice work on putting up such a big line in new territory Ian. Jan 19, 2023
Jay Morse
Hooksett, New Hampshire
 
[Hide Comment] I think this is destined to be a classic. First few pitches are pretty good, but the crux pitch and beyond are outstanding. Belay ledges are almost all very comfortable, bolt spacing was done very tastefully, and this is a prime location in the canyon to spend a hot day. Beautiful views, very nice exposure on the top 4 pitches, and a great summit. The approach really isn't that bad, no worse than going to the Dihedrals.

Don't expect to be the only party going for this one on a hot day.

Being a new route, I'll echo the comments that you probably don't want to be climbing underneath another party, especially during their rappels. Pitches 1-5 are generally right on top of each other, and pitches 6-11 are generally on top of each other.

We had one stuck rope during the rappels, I believe it was pitch 5. There is a large horn right in the path of the rope, and I assume we won't be the only ones that happens to. Luckily, that feature is only 5 bolts up the pitch, so it was easy to re-lead that section and free the rope.

We climbed this on a day forecasted to be 88 degrees F and we were wearing our puffy jackets for the final 2 pitches. It can be a windy and cold little micro-climate where this route is, be prepared for that and choose the right day to climb it. Jan 29, 2023
Steve Po
Philadelphia, PA
[Hide Comment] Awesome climb! Stiff for Potrero, fair overall. Linked 1-2, pitched out 3 and 4(crux). Easy to link up pitches 2 at a time., Just bring alpines. Prob best not to climb up behind others still.
There is an unfinished route to climbers left, as of now there is an orange sling 20-30 ft up on it, that route is not "When you're Lost" large loose blocks, lots of dirt and vegetation. Pass the first route, lost in the wild is about 20 meters higher up the canyon.
Well thought out. Great work! Feb 28, 2023
Joe F
 
[Hide Comment] Approach beta:
To find the path to Sendero/Plutonia, take a right immediately after the hand-drawn sign at the trailhead. (Don’t go toward El Bobo and then try to cut across toward Sendero. Lots of scree if you go this way.)

Once past Plutonia the scree will eventually become quite steep. Following the cairns up the scree is your best bet.


The route was a blast! It was a great closer to our trip. No issues with rock quality although we started cautiously until we were confident in it. Echoing the above sentiments- very impressed that Ian put this up by himself! Oct 24, 2023
Francois Cote
Fredericton, NB
  5.11b
[Hide Comment] Fun route worth doing especially if you have done most of the usual Potrero classics. Every pitch had some interesting climbing and IMO there were no bad pitches. The crux pitch is awesome and felt about 11b to me using crack technique from fingers to fists. The only negative is I wish it was longer! Pitch 5 felt like 10+ and was another of my favourite pitches. The rock changes dramatically for the last 2 pitches and offered some nice variety.
The long approach is worth it and makes the route feel like a full day adventure.
Thanks Ian for putting this up for all to enjoy! Feb 22, 2024
Alex Taipale
San Francisco, CA
[Hide Comment] Approach note: I never saw the wooden sign pictured. This route is up the scree gully from trash cat, and for me it was before the marker for Wild Wall on Mountain project, so I hiked too far up the gully. It's maybe 150-200' up the gully from the trash cat turn.

P1-3 were weird and felt like approach pitches to me. The 11b was really fun and will be very hard if you don't know finger crack technique, and pretty doable if you do.


Also, we did it on an 83 degree day w/ 10-15 mph winds and I didn't need a puffy. Only a light windbreaker w/ my sun hoody. Dec 27, 2024
Luke Steiner
Bend, OR
 
[Hide Comment] This was probably my favorite route that I got on in EPC. The climbing is varied, lots of slab and slightly off vertical technical climbing, splitter cracks, and a couple short roofs to get over. The position, especially from P4 up is incredible, with sheer exposure down to the wash. The rock quality was great to excellent, with the majority of the loose rocks we encountered being on some of the short 3rd class traverses. The bolting felt super safe overall, reasonably safe on anything harder than 5.9 and very comfortably spaced on anything harder than mid 5.10. Clipping stances were well thought out, especially on the crux pitch. Big props to the FA for bolting a really high quality and aesthetic line up this wall! Feb 17, 2025
Sarah Jakober
  5.11b
[Hide Comment] Would have to second the rock quality problem in this one. Had two parties climbing below us all day and found dozens and dozens of shoebox-microwave sized rocks all over the route. Whatever cleaning happened up there was very minimal. Would not repeat this route with people above or below - worst EPC route of our trip as far as loose rock. Dec 28, 2025
Andre Chiquito
Seneca Rocks, WV
 
[Hide Comment] Seconding the rock quality mentions!
I thought the movement was pretty fun, the bolting was excellent, but I was constantly worried about loose rock and can confirm there are many large, loose blocks.

Have a backup climb in the wings in case someone beats you to this climb; I might say I wouldn’t be caught dead climbing behind another party on this, but I very well could! Jan 16, 2026