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Routes in Palisade Head

A Feathery Tong T,TR 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
A Sinner’s Last Gift T 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a PG13
A mind Forever Voyaging A3+ PG13
Aching Alms T 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Arms Race T,TR 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Bluebells T,TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Bridges over Troubled Water T,TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Choice of a New Generation, The T,TR 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Christmas Tree Crack T,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Danger High Voltage T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight a.k.a. "Gun Fight" T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Double Breasted Anchor T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Driving in Duluth T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c R
Ecclesiastes T 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Echoes S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Ex Nihilo T,TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Flight School T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b
Fool's Progress, The S 5.12a/b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6a
Gales of November, The T 5.13 8a 29 X- 30 E7 6c
Genetically Correct T 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b
Goliath's Finger Crack T,TR 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Great Bird Chimney, The T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Happy Happy, Joy Joy S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Hidden Agenda T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Hidden Treasure T,TR 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
I Could've Been a Contender T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Iron Maiden T,TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Jim's Crack T 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13
KGB T,TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Laceration Jam T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b R
Lapidarian T,TR 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Long Distance Commute T,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Lord of the flies (free) AKA: Comrades in Slings (aid) T 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b PG13
Mabley's Traverse T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13
Mack the Knife T,TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Mann Act T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c R
Mr. Lean T,TR 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Night Vision T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Old Men in Tight Pants TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Oz - (AKA The Road To Emerald City) T 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Palisaid T 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Phantom Corner TR 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b
Phantom Crack T,TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Poseidon Adventure T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a PG13
Praise the Many Seraphim T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Presents T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Pussyfoot T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Quetico Crack T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Rapprochement T,TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Scars and Tripes Forever T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Socket Wrench T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Soli Deo Gloria T 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Squab T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Sunny and Sheer T,TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a R
Superior Arete T,TR 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Superior Crack T,TR 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Swimsuits and Harnesses T,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Swizzlestick Legs T,S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Urge to Mate T,TR 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Warrior's Last Dance On Earth TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Water Babies T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Wise Guys T,TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Withering Heights T,TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Yellow Feather T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Type: Trad, 190 ft, 2 pitches
FA: Kurt Hager
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Shared By: KurtH on Aug 8, 2016
Admins: Kris Gorny, Chris treggE

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Description

This steep and intricate line takes a stunning position up the blank face of A Mind Forever Voyaging, generally following a faint seam that comes and goes throughout.

P1
5.13-, 120 feet, 7 B and small gear. Sustained, technical and slightly runout climbing leads through several long and pumpy 5.12 cruxes. The final smack down comes with an abrupt 12 foot crimp traverse to gain the belay ledge.

NOTE: that if lowering from the Pitch 1 anchors you will need a 70 meter rope. A 60 meter will NOT reach the bottom.

P2
5.13, 65 feet, 2 B plus mid-sized gear. A powerful and bouldery pitch. From the ledge this climbs the obvious thin seam. Three cruxes, each one harder than the previous, lead to an easier top out. Poor feet, several deadpoints, strenuous body tension on gastons and side-pulls characterizes the climbing.

Location

The route starts just left of Danger High Voltage if looking up from the ground.

Shout out to Rick Kollath and Dave Pagel for developing this as an aid route, which I believe has seen few (maybe no?) repeats. From what I've heard via word of mouth is that this was done in winter, bolts where hand-drilled on lead. Even if that's not the case, I'm gonna believe it since that's a great tale and good adventure.

Protection

draws, small nuts through #1 red BD cam. You would be hard pressed to find more than 3 placements per pitch.
Great job Kurt! I really don't care what label people want to put on your ascent. You were honest about your style, that's what counts. I solo aided this route many years ago. Clipping those bolts gave me a sense of security. I guess it was a false sense! Aug 20, 2016
Where style is concerned, sure, it was a pinkpoint. But since we're talking technicalities, then let's be objective through and through. Redpoint style is not requisite for a first free ascent.

Congrats on a proud and well-earned FFA Kurt! Aug 8, 2016
Nice work Kurt! Looks sick! Climb in a style that you feel is proper and let others expand on that in their own way.

Proud effort on what looks like an extremely high quality route. Aug 8, 2016
KurtH
 
KurtH  
 
Thanks Peter for the comment. I thought about this for a long time and decided I personally felt comfortable having the supplemental gear pre-placed as this is a mixed route, not a full trad route. Maybe others will see it differently, and that's fine. My goal in this climb was to free it by climbing from the bottom to the top in a single push without falling on lead, while having the smallest impact on the rock as possible.

If this route were located elsewhere, it would be a fully equipped sport climb as it's certainly not a crack climb. With draws already hanging at a certain point it felt contrived to place the extra pieces. All the other routes I've done at Palisade I've lead placing gear, but this climb felt different due to the number of bolts already in place from the original aid route.

If you or anyone else wanted to send it placing the few gear placements on lead, I truly and honestly would be thrilled to belay you and will be the first to shake your hand and buy you beer when you top it out. If you wanted to claim the first true ascent that's fine: I loved climbing this route, did it in a style that I feel proud of, and after all the work I put into it (ie, upgrading hardware and cleaning it to make it safe) I hope it is something the community can enjoy hereafter.

I get part of climbing is debating ethics since there is no official rule book, and I want to be totally transparent about the style I climbed in. A surprising number of lines have been established on pre-placed gear, even up to massive routes like the Pre-Muir Wall on El Cap, and they didn't try to hide it. For me it's a decision for each individual climber to make and just be honest about. I'll leave it at that. Aug 8, 2016
Chris treggE
Madison, WI
Chris treggE   Madison, WI  
Badass! Nice work! Aug 8, 2016
First, great effort on the route. However, leading a route with the gear preplaced is known as pink-pointing and is certainly not a red-point ascent. To that matter, the first free ascent of A Mind Forever Voyaging is yet to be had. But again, nice work in opening the free moves. Place the gear before you post a new route as red-pointed though. Good luck on the future first free ascent. Aug 8, 2016
Kris Gorny    
Congrats, Kurt! Aug 8, 2016
KurtH
 
KurtH  
 
A few "stylistic" notes on the route:

1) There were actually 11 bolts on the original aid line, including a 4 piece bolt ladder / second pitch anchor, all meant for essentially body weight only (see photos). These were carefully extracted and updated with safe hardware, and there are now actually fewer bolts on the route.

2) Doing this route in two pitches makes sense: first of all, it's really tall and the original route was completed in 2 pitches. Most importantly, one of the hardest sequences is right off the no hands rest ledge / second pitch belay. With the rope stretch from ground, you would certainly deck hard on the ledge with a potentially angle/leg breaking fall.

3) I sent both pitches back to back on lead in a single push. Draws and supplemental gear were pre-placed on route. Aug 8, 2016