[Hide Comment] This is probably 5.7 by old school Lemmon standards. The undercling move is well supported by great feet and your bolt is at your waist. An enjoyable climb whatever you decide to rate it. May 21, 2016

[Hide Comment] Found a 'biner at the base of this route (Big Black Deck) on Thursday, Sep 22. Describe it and I'll get it back to you.

Cliff Sep 25, 2016

[Hide Comment] Pretty big jog to the left on a ledge. Nov 21, 2016

[Hide Comment] I wouldn't have put in the low anchors but it was nice you did. This gives the 5.7 climbers another route to lead. If you climb 5.9 then continue up the extension as one pitch. Nov 21, 2016

[Hide Comment] I've taken beginners here multiple times now and it is a solid fun route for newbies or a good warm up. For newbies just watch for Z-clips since this thing is like super bolted. The minor crux part could lead to a fall onto a shelf (which someone did) but its not too bad. You can easily reach the anchors for Moral Ambiguity to set up an easy TR. The second pitch Bigger Blacker Deck allows for a decent multi-pitch practice spot or just do as a single. Topping out is fun tho a little exposed. Can hike off or rap just bring a couple slings. I did have my rope get stuck after rapping so be aware of that possible pain in the ass. Dec 3, 2016

[Hide Comment] Fun easy stuff Jun 13, 2017

[Hide Comment] why does it wonder left not straight up. Mar 16, 2019

[Hide Comment] The route goes left through the path of least resistance. I looked at bolting straight up, but choose to keep the climbing at grade for as long as possible. If anyone is inclined, you are welcome to bolt the straight up variation! Mar 16, 2019

[Hide Comment] Personally, I'm looking forward to putting 2020 in my hindsight. Jul 7, 2020

[Hide Comment] I'm curious - what were the protocols that were used in the renaming process for this route? Sep 3, 2020

[Hide Comment] @Jerry

Pretty easy with this one as the protocol involved the FA team changing the name. Sep 3, 2020

[Hide Comment] Hahaha. Excellent rename! (And a fun, generously-bolted climb.) Dec 15, 2020

[Hide Comment] Some might say over-bolted, but you could say the same for a number of the other routes here. Good for gym rats, I suppose. Regardless, I really like the crags here. Aug 9, 2021