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Routes in 2 - King

At the queens pleasure S 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Bobby Fissure T,S 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Fool's Gambit, The S 5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Gamesmanship S 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c
King of Slots S 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
King's Arete S 5.12c/d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
King's Ransom S 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
Little King, The S 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Serfs up S 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Win, Lose, No Draws S 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
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Type: Sport, 70 ft
FA: Eric Fazio-Rhicard & Jim Scott (2007)
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Shared By: Hendrixson on Feb 20, 2016
Admins: Luke Bertelsen, JJ Schlick, Greg Opland

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Win, Lose, No Draws is a deceptive-looking route of sustained difficulty, punctuated by a number of rests. Straight off the deck pull strenuous moves to obtain a corner system rest. Ascend a brief arete by edging and then probe for purchase on slopers. Traverse over the anchors of The Little King on a large ledge. Regroup and then battle to the chains using sidepulls and pockets. This one isn't over until you've clipped the chains.

I personally enjoyed this route much more than I was expecting. The movement was varied and challenging; the rock was seemingly solid. Is it better than nearby routes of comparable difficulty? I'm not sure. Is it worth climbing at some point? Definitely.


Win, Lose, No Draws is on the far left side of the King formation. It is the second route from the left. The Little King is to the left; King's Arete is to the right.


Approximately 12 bolts to leaver biners. There is a chain draw midway to aid in cleaning.


Joe Kreidel
San Antonio, TX
Joe Kreidel   San Antonio, TX
I left a leaver biner about halfway up this route for clipping into as you lower. This helps avoid a nasty swing after you unclip all the draws. I'm not sure if this route gets enough traffic to justify a permadraw in that spot, but I have one I am happy to add next time I'm up there. Mar 7, 2016
1Eric Rhicard
1Eric Rhicard   Tucson
Do it Joe! just make sure the biner is not easily removed. Mar 8, 2016
Littleton, CO
Hendrixson   Littleton, CO
A chain draw has been added to aid in cleaning. Mar 27, 2016
Thanks guys. The dudes that developed this are slackers. Thanks for stepping up and finishing the job! Mar 27, 2016

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