Type: Trad
FA: Dan Mannix, Alison Sheets - 1987
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Shared By: Nate Sydnor on Mar 16, 2015
Admins: slim, Andrew Gram, Nathan Fisher, Perin Blanchard, grk10vq

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Access Issue: RAIN, WET ROCK and RAPTOR CLOSURES: The sandstone around Moab is fragile and is very easily damaged when it is wet. Also please ask and be aware of Raptor Closures in areas such as CAT WALL and RESERVOIR WALL in Indian Creek Details
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This is an obvious seam to the left of Seibernetics and Unemployment Line. The climbing is tenuous, with tiny protection. Very cool route.


Obvious seam to the left of Seibernetics. Starts as a shallow left facing corner.


Tiny. Triples or even quadruples of grey sizes (BD worked best) through purple TCU size. A few pieces in the finger and tips range, as well as a .75 or two and a hand sized piece for getting to the bolt.


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Michael Dom  
Lots of nuts and tcus for this route. Dec 22, 2015
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20kN wrote:Funny, I only used one nut. It's basically a splitter crack. Eats cams up as well as any Creek splitter

Your picture is of El Cracko Diablo (10a) which requires no nuts. Seam as it Ever Was is actually hard.
If you were really climbing Seam as it Ever Was, you would have needed a fire truck instead of that step ladder. May 21, 2016
The route in this picture is El Crack-O Diablo, 5.10-. Notorious for devilishly retaining #1 Friend-sized pieces in the opening 15'- (hence the climber on the ladder probably trying to score a cam). Seam As It Ever Was is 6 routes right of this route. Routes right of El Crack-O Diablo: El Face-O Diablo 11+, Faith Flake 11-, Junk In The Trunk 12-, Rain Catcher 11-, Rude Old Men 12, Seam As It Ever Was 11. Peace. Mar 7, 2018