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Southeast Face T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Southeast Face, Direct Start T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Starr's Route T 4th 1 2 I 2 M 1b
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Type: Trad, Alpine, 2 pitches
FA: unknown
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Shared By: Sam Cannon on Jul 14, 2014
Admins: Chris Owen, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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Description [Edit]

I believe this to be the most frequently used start for the (sandbagged, imo) 5.8 SE Face Route. While there is a series of easier pitches that traverses in from the left via a series of ramps/ledges, this is a more aesthetic line with reportedly better climbing, more consistent with the difficulties you'll encounter higher up. Corner climbing with some minor overhangs, great jams, and awesome crimps!

The SuperTopo book lists the first pitch as being 5.9 and the second being 10a. I found them both to be pretty equal, and the consensus seems to be 5.9(+). I felt there were more difficult sections (by a grade) higher up on the route, though I admittedly may have gotten off route for a section. I'll stick with 10a here as this is what is listed in guidebooks and by Peter Croft, though the consensus will likely be 9/9+. In summary, if you're confident you can do the rest of the route clean and quickly, there is no reason to avoid the direct start.

I thought these two pitches were phenomenal, and some of the best on the route (though there were some incredible ones higher up as well).

On the first pitch you'll pass a rappel station on your right, you want to keep climbing, don't set up a belay here. I did stop here, thinking it was the end of the first, and with a 70m rope I really had to stretch it to get to the top of the 2nd pitch with some sizable runouts to conserve pro. The top of the 2nd pitch is very obvious as it's a ledge that tops a minor buttress. Traverse around to your (climber's) left to join the route.

Location [Edit]

The original start begins more-or-less level with the toe of the Ken Minaret to climber's left of Clyde, while the direct start is pretty easily identified -- it's the clean, right-facing corner at the base of the SE face.

Other than being more in line with the rest of the route than the original start, both in terms of difficulty and location, it's also much easier to find.

Protection [Edit]

Standard alpine rack, whatever that means for you at this grade and in this environment. I led both pitches and used doubles. Pretty straightforward protection, and plenty of it.


Ryan Nevius
Estes Park, CO
Ryan Nevius   Estes Park, CO
Does this really warrant a new route in the database? It's 2 pitches of climbing...The rest is the same as the regular SE Face.

Maybe this is the alpine equivalent to a "sit start." Jul 15, 2014
Chris Owen
Big Bear Lake
Chris Owen   Big Bear Lake  
No - it should've been added as a comment - or a request made to change the original posting. Not sure what to do with it now. Maybe I'll work on incorporating it with credit to the roginal poster. Sep 30, 2015
Sam Cannon
Salt Lake City, UT
Sam Cannon   Salt Lake City, UT
I'm not that invested in it. Feel free to ax it if you'd like. Nov 22, 2015
Takashi 69
Los Angeles, Ca
Takashi 69   Los Angeles, Ca
More...better. Please keep it. It's not two moves ie..."sit start", it's two "route". Dec 26, 2015
Todd Graham
Sierra Eastside, CA
Todd Graham   Sierra Eastside, CA
This is one of my favorite routes of all time, having done it car to car probably 7 times. Start hiking at 4 am ... get to base in about 3 hours. Climb the 10a tower (1.5 pitches) to a big ledge. Once on this ledge, while facing the wall, go down and left and step into/up a thin corner that climbs 10a with finger-sized cams. When you top out on this pitch on a small ledge, keep going up, until you reach a belay just to the left of the main corner. Take this .8 corner (classic!) to the notch on the ridge. Follow ridge to summit. Once on the summit go north down the ridge about 50 yards and look for a flake/horn with slings to rap from down the west side. Once you are down from the rap hike down and around to the gulley on Clyde's south side to a huge chockstone, do a short rap, then walk down to your pack. Usually ended up back at the car around 7 or 8 pm. Jan 27, 2016
Derek Field
Flagstaff, AZ
Derek Field   Flagstaff, AZ
Agreed that there is more difficult climbing on some 5.8 pitches higher on the route. Jam a knee in the offwidth (the supposed crux) and its nowhere near .10a Aug 23, 2017

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