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99 Problems S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
99 Problems But a Pinch Ain't One S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Bella Donna S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Bella Donna (1st Pitch) S 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Big Flake, The S 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Bronner S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Enemy T S 5.14+ 9a 35 XI 35 E10 7b
Funk, The S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Funkmaster Afro Groove S 5.14b/c 8c+ 34 XI- 34 E9 7b
Helsinki S 5.14d 9a 35 XI 36 E10 7c
Hide & Seek(a) S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Jornada Del Muerto S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Midget Proof S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Midget Proof Direct S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Morning Commute S 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Mudbone S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Nate Dog S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Old Man Direct S 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b
Old Man and The Sea(ka) (1st Pitch) S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Old Man and the Sea (ka) S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Public Enemy S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Serenity S 5.13b/c 8a+ 29 X- 30 E7 6c
Technician, The S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Titanaboa S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a PG13
WTF S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Type: Sport, 55 ft
FA: Bolted by Nate Bancroft, FA Brandi Proffitt
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Shared By: KJP on Mar 24, 2013
Admins: Shirtless Mike, Aaron Hobson, Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB Brinckerhoff, Marta Reece, Drew Chojnowski

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Description

Start up Morning Commute till you can reach right to the huge juggy hole, head up, big moves on incut crimpers to a cool rock over sequence that puts you a few moves form the anchor

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all fixed bolts
c roth  
@dvanhorn, in my defense the only thing I've ever personally added to the data base, is my ascent of FMAG, which I bolted the upper portion of. All I'm saying is, considering ambiguity surrounding the line we're discussing, it's easy to see how a psyched youngster could walk away thinking they'd done a first ascent. In spite of that ambiguity, climbing is an honor sport, and there's no reason to doubt Brandi capable of doing the first ascent. I think the name should be changed to Nate Dog, in the MP database. There has been sporadic contact with those who did the bolting, previous to what we've added. However, it has been frustrating and confusing to get verbal face to face confirmation on things being undone, as was the case with, "Old Man and the Sea (ka)", only to have the contrary be said once it's been added to the data base. May 3, 2013
Before you and your crew post FA information on lines you didn’t bolt you should establish contact with the people who did the bolting – seems like that would be the professional/responsible way to handle this situation as I don’t believe first ascentionists have any responsibility to post their ascents on any website to prevent their FAs from being claimed by other parties. Maybe it’s time for an unbiased administrator to step in? May 3, 2013
c roth  
@Scott. I've no doubt that you're all capable of climbing this line, and assessing it as 12d. However, in Kinchen's defense, this line was the only line sans fixed quickdraws, on that stretch of wall. It didn't have any tick marks, chalk or booty rubber on it; and Kinchen cleaned a fair bit of veneer and dirt off, prior to climbing it. Based on the state it was in, and the amount of tick marks and high impact left on even the undone lines in the cave; it's hard to believe this line was climbed by at least four people prior to Kinchen's ascent. But, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Just to confirm we're talking about the same line, it's the route covered in unnecessary hideous green sika minus the botched 1995 era spray paint job that was applied on the majority of the other glue enhanced lines? If there are any other lines that you believe were done that aren't in the MP data base, it might be wise to add them to avoid confusion. Keep in mind, "Enemy D" is no longer what it was, as all the glue enhancement has been removed. It's for all tense and purposes a new undone project. Whether, it's deserving of a new name when someone re-sends it, is perhaps a gray area (no pun intended). May 3, 2013
The FA of this route was done several years ago by Brandi Proffitt. It was bolted by Nate Bancroft and given the name "Nate Dog" it's been repeated several times by myself and others. I believe she suggested a grade of 12.d May 1, 2013